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Re:Reddit signs $60M content licensing deal with AI company by SAI_Peregrinus on Saturday February 17, 2024 @12:54PM (#39411676)
> When Your Content is created with or submitted to the Services, you grant us a worldwide, royalty-free, perpetual, irrevocable, non-exclusive, transferable, and sublicensable license to use, copy, modify, adapt, prepare derivative works of, distribute, store, perform, and display Your Content and any name, username, voice, or likeness provided in connection with Your Content in all media formats and channels now known or later developed anywhere in the world. This license includes the right for us to make Your Content available for syndication, broadcast, distribution, or publication by other companies, organizations, or individuals who partner with Reddit. You also agree that we may remove metadata associated with Your Content, and you irrevocably waive any claims and assertions of moral rights or attribution with respect to Your Content.

From the oldest version of their ToS[1]. This is unchanged in the newest versions even for the EEA[2]. It seems pretty clearly that whatever AI training is doing is covered by "use, copy, modify, adapt, prepare derivative works of, distribute, store, perform, and display" in "media formats and channels now known or later developed anywhere in the world" (emphasis mine).

[1] https://www.redditinc.com/policies/user-agreement-october-15...

[2] https://www.redditinc.com/policies/user-agreement-february-1...

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Re:Reddit signs $60M content licensing deal with AI company by miohtama on Saturday February 17, 2024 @03:28PM (#39413234)
This is (hopefully) the major difference between web 2.0 and Web3. In the latter, the goal is to build services where you actually own your content.

Remains to see if this actually can happen.

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Re:Reddit signs $60M content licensing deal with AI company by ySteeK on Sunday February 18, 2024 @01:32AM (#39416750)
At least in Germany, such agreements are afaik invalid and without a severability clause, possibly all others too. Simply because something like copyright cannot be assigned in Germany. Secondly, there are ways to use Reddit without ever having agreed to the ToS.
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Re:Reddit signs $60M content licensing deal with AI company by fragmede on Sunday February 18, 2024 @05:52PM (#39424349)
how do you make a comment without creating an account which requires you to agree to the tos?
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Re:Reddit signs $60M content licensing deal with AI company by nicbou on Monday February 19, 2024 @06:29PM (#39436118)
In Germany lopsided contracts clauses that surrender all rights are void. GDPR also gives you the right to recall all your data, so you should be able to delete your account and all your data.
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Re:Reddit signs $60M content licensing deal with AI company by SAI_Peregrinus on Sunday February 18, 2024 @09:32PM (#39425669)
That clause does not assign copyright. You explicitly keep your own copyright (in the previous clause, I didn't reproduce it above). You just grant them a license to use your content in the ways they listed.
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