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Re:Tesla worker killed in fiery crash may be first 'Full Sel... by ceejayoz on Tuesday February 13, 2024 @11:54AM (#39359718)
Will you accept Tesla's word for it?

https://www.tesla.com/ownersmanual/model3/en_us/GUID-101D1BF...

> In addition, these features may not work as intended when: The road has sharp curves or significant changes in elevation.; Road signs and signals are unclear, ambiguous, or poorly maintained.; Visibility is poor (due to heavy rain, snow, hail, etc. or poorly lit roadways at night); You are driving in a tunnel or next to a highway divider that interferes with the view of the camera(s); Bright light (such as from oncoming headlights or direct sunlight) interferes with the view of the camera(s).

https://www.tesla.com/ownersmanual/model3/en_us/GUID-E5FF5E8...

> Full Self-Driving (Beta) and its associated functions may not operate as intended and there are numerous situations in which driver intervention may be needed. Examples include (but are not limited to): Interactions with pedestrians, bicyclists, and other road users.; Unprotected turns with high-speed cross traffic.; Multi-lane turns.; Simultaneous lane changes.; Narrow roads with oncoming cars or double-parked vehicles.; Rare objects such as trailers, ramps, cargo, open doors, etc. protruding from vehicles.; Merges onto high-traffic, high-speed roads.; Debris in the road.; Construction zones.; High curvature roads, particularly at fast driving speeds.

Re:Tesla worker killed in fiery crash may be first 'Full Sel... by judge2020 on Tuesday February 13, 2024 @11:57AM (#39359768)
This is basically my point at the bottom of my original post. It isn't supposed to be used in those scenarios. That doesn't change the reality that my car's Autopilot can and does work on dirt roads, when the sun is directly in the middle of its FOV, on the curvy suburban roads of Georgia, in heavy rain, etc.
Re:Tesla worker killed in fiery crash may be first 'Full Sel... by bradjohnson on Tuesday February 13, 2024 @03:46PM (#39362602)
Sure, but that's not the argument being made here. The data that Tesla uses is obviously massaged to make their product have the illusion of superior safety. To what extent is unclear, but it is clear that this data has an agenda. It doesn't compare like with like and can't be piecemeal interpreted to make an unbiased observation. To bring it up at all is just marketing.