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Re:Developers Are in Open Revolt over Apple's New App Store ... by 015a on Monday February 12, 2024 @02:44PM (#39349400)
1. Microsoft does sell users a computer. Sometimes. Surface devices represent about 10% of all desktop computers.

2. Apple also sells Macs, where developers can access "Apple's customers" unencumbered, without needing to play by Apple's rules (developers may also opt-in to a lower-form of "playing by Apple's rules" by submitting their apps to Apple for notarization, or naturally, they may also opt-in to the Full Rules by distributing through the App Store. This is a fantastic, multi-tiered system that works, obviously, well enough for everyone.)

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Re:Developers Are in Open Revolt over Apple's New App Store ... by FirmwareBurner on Monday February 12, 2024 @03:34PM (#39350108)
>Surface devices represent about 10% of all desktop computers.

Really, Surface has THAT MUCH?! I honestly doubt it. I think I've only seen 4-6 surface devices in the wild in my life(in Europe). Maybe in the US they have 10% market share.

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Re:Developers Are in Open Revolt over Apple's New App Store ... by pjmlp on Tuesday February 13, 2024 @07:48AM (#39357118)
It does, quite common in Germany, also Surface main target are business users.
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Re:Developers Are in Open Revolt over Apple's New App Store ... by FirmwareBurner on Tuesday February 13, 2024 @09:13AM (#39357760)
But some business users in rich countries buying Surface devices can't possibly make 10% global PC market share.
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Re:Developers Are in Open Revolt over Apple's New App Store ... by pjmlp on Tuesday February 13, 2024 @09:57AM (#39358167)
Why not? It does wonders for fruity devices.
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Re:Developers Are in Open Revolt over Apple's New App Store ... by FirmwareBurner on Tuesday February 13, 2024 @10:51AM (#39358740)
A lot more regular people worldwide buy iPhones, not just business users in a few countries.
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Re:Developers Are in Open Revolt over Apple's New App Store ... by pjmlp on Tuesday February 13, 2024 @10:59AM (#39358866)
I was talking about laptops and desktops, you know, what matters when the subject is Surface.

Successful enough that made Apple start shipping keyboards with the iPad to compete in that segment, as laptop wannabe.

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Re:Developers Are in Open Revolt over Apple's New App Store ... by sib on Tuesday February 13, 2024 @11:49AM (#39359646)
According to Gartner, Surface has never been more than 2.1% of the global market.
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Re:Developers Are in Open Revolt over Apple's New App Store ... by sib on Tuesday February 13, 2024 @11:47AM (#39359605)
As I said in my original note: "(Of course, there are also computers such as the Microsoft Surface, but these represent a tiny fraction of the universe of Windows computers ever sold...)"

According to Gartner, "Surface has never had more than 2.1% of the PC market."

At 2.1%, they're basically a non-player in the market.

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