Re:Why it's so hard to build new commercial aircraft
by euroderf on Monday February 12, 2024 @04:27AM
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You've also made the case for railway travel, except the last mile car. But that last mile car is an impediment in a proper (dense) city with proper transit.
Re:Why it's so hard to build new commercial aircraft
by AtlasBarfed on Monday February 12, 2024 @02:05PM
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Railway travel has schedules you have to adhere, and all the boarding/unboarding overhead, and luggage limitations.
With the high expense of rail infrastructure (e.g. transporation in cities) I always wondered if you simply designated a dedicated paved lane for busses if that would simply be cheaper.
Re:Why it's so hard to build new commercial aircraft
by euroderf on Tuesday February 13, 2024 @02:11AM
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Buying tix online makes rail travel a lot simpler, ektually. But there's a place for buses too, and a crossover point where increased traffic makes rail better long-term.
But long-dx on buses is no fun. Trains rule. Get some shuteye, or watch the world go by.
Re:Why it's so hard to build new commercial aircraft
by Qwertious on Monday February 12, 2024 @06:12AM
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You used to be able to travel to Florida in your car without having to drive, in a "motorail" that simply carried the whole automobile on the train:
Re:Why it's so hard to build new commercial aircraft
by mst on Monday February 12, 2024 @08:26AM
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That seems to have the humans ride in passenger cars.
The Channel Tunnel vehicle trains generally leave the humans in the cars during the journey: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LeShuttle
Smaller planes seem mostly designed for shorter flights, but if I can get a better-than-sober-me stats on highways, and I can sleep in a car while it drives me to another city, why would I fly?
- take a lot more stuff with you
- for families it will be insanely cheaper
- if an EV, it will be lower carbon
- I will have a car for last mile/city driving when I get there
- much better seats
I honestly think the 20 year prognosis for <800 mile flights is going to be really bad. 800 miles flying is 2 hours + taxiing + waiting in line + transport to airport + giving yourself enough buffer + land/get luggage + ground transport. That is probably 5-6 hours in many situations.
So a 10-11 hour drive where you don't have to pay attention and can sleep overnight would be my primary choice if I could do it now. Even if there was, say, a 1500 mile trip to florida, if there is someone to visit along the way, I'll drive.
Anyway, the gist of it is that I think large planes or trips with water barriers are what the industry will end up with, I don't anticipate some massive groundswell of air travel demand for shorter flights in the long run.