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Re:Gemini Ultra Released by ysofunny on Thursday February 08, 2024 @10:43AM (#39303243)
naming things is hard

is one of the cultural difference between a computer-first logical mindset contrasted with the mathematics-first mindset

the mathematics first mentality does not properly recognize the importance and the difficulty of having good names for things, whereas the computological view recognizes both: the importance and the difficulty

Re:Gemini Ultra Released by chatmasta on Thursday February 08, 2024 @11:03AM (#39303534)
Insofar as naming things is basically applied category theory, I'd trust a mathematician to name a set of products more tersely and understandably than I would an English major.
Re:Gemini Ultra Released by iopq on Thursday February 08, 2024 @11:58AM (#39304343)
Re:Gemini Ultra Released by yakshaving_jgt on Thursday February 08, 2024 @12:30PM (#39304830)
â€ĶI don't understand? VX2758-2KP-MHD is a fairly commonly used word in the Polish language.
Re:Gemini Ultra Released by sirsinsalot on Thursday February 08, 2024 @01:59PM (#39306027)
It is even my surname!
Re:Gemini Ultra Released by chatmasta on Thursday February 08, 2024 @12:43PM (#39304993)
It's unique and easily searchable when I want documentation specific to that product. And when deciding which monitor to buy, I can focus on comparing the technical specifications rather than relying on some heuristics based on how the name "feels" to me.
Re:Gemini Ultra Released by iopq on Thursday February 08, 2024 @02:26PM (#39306381)
I would rather name it the 2020-27in-QHD-IPS-144Hz
Re:Gemini Ultra Released by ysofunny on Thursday February 08, 2024 @11:04AM (#39303556)
I'm running a contest in my head: "which academic discipline can transfer more information with less text"

so far it's a close race between philosophers and mathematicians. I'll take your comment as a vote in favor of mathematicians

Re:Gemini Ultra Released by chatmasta on Thursday February 08, 2024 @11:57AM (#39304317)
I don't think philosophers should even be in the running for this title. They write way too many words when few do trick.
Re:Gemini Ultra Released by ysofunny on Thursday February 08, 2024 @12:08PM (#39304478)
but talking is part of the contest (I should not have said it was about "text"; nonetheless academia still maintains an oral tradition in teaching and thesis defenses)

so while written philosophy is verbose, philosophers talking can "transfer" a lot of "meaning" with short sentence

whereas mathematicians will likely need to talk for a very long time for what they can write down in a short terse equation

Re:Gemini Ultra Released by thfuran on Thursday February 08, 2024 @01:51PM (#39305899)
Who do the few words trick? Why do the philosophers wait for that before writing their many words?
Re:Gemini Ultra Released by sirsinsalot on Thursday February 08, 2024 @02:00PM (#39306041)
Classical musicians. Lots of information with very few symbols nevermind text.
Re:Gemini Ultra Released by thfuran on Thursday February 08, 2024 @10:49AM (#39303337)
How many mathematicians do you know? All the mathematicians I know are interested in both notational and linguistic clarity.
Re:Gemini Ultra Released by ysofunny on Thursday February 08, 2024 @10:56AM (#39303441)
lucky you, all the mathematics proessors I've had scarcely know how to work a computer

another cultural difference is the kind of homework they hand out; the difference boils down to whether you hand over a printed (or printable) proof checked by reading through it, or a runnable program or script checked by running it

Re:Gemini Ultra Released by smabie on Thursday February 08, 2024 @12:26PM (#39304755)
What does this have to do with naming things
Re:Gemini Ultra Released by pitherpather on Thursday February 08, 2024 @01:00PM (#39305226)
> naming things is hard

Of tangential interest: I recently heard that Faraday, while discovering new electromagnetic phenomenon, then turned to either a linguist or classicist for help in assigning/inventing terms for them. (I cannot find a link for this just now, so consider this heresay.)