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Re:Waymo Hits Cyclist in SF by maxwellg on Wednesday February 07, 2024 @11:43PM (#39298258)
Insisting that a bicycle needs to follow the same procedures as a 3000lb internal combustion engine driven vehicle is madness. The vast majority of car laws are completely inappropriate for bicycles. Bicycles are much smaller, go much slower, can stop much faster, etc.
Re:Waymo Hits Cyclist in SF by ExoticPearTree on Thursday February 08, 2024 @03:42AM (#39299723)
Then ride in dedicated bike lanes, but don't make up excuses why you should break the laws just because they are inconvenient to you.
Re:Waymo Hits Cyclist in SF by agos on Thursday February 08, 2024 @04:44AM (#39300108)
confine the bikes to the bike lanes, then don't build bike lanes (or build awful ones) and finally you'll be free of those pesky bikes! finally the cars will have the road all by themselves.
Re:Waymo Hits Cyclist in SF by asoneth on Thursday February 08, 2024 @07:05AM (#39300986)
> don't make up excuses why you should break the laws just because they are inconvenient to you

I tend to agree, and obey the speed limit and come to a stop at stop signs when driving. I get passed by other drivers, sometimes dangerously, often illegally, several times a week.

I would have sympathy for driver complaints about cyclists who ignore inconvenient traffic laws if drivers were any more law-abiding.

If you want to drive faster, fine, change the speed limit. But don't just ignore laws you find inconvenient!

Re:Waymo Hits Cyclist in SF by infecto on Thursday February 08, 2024 @06:30AM (#39300725)
I get what you’re saying but as a cyclist totally disagree. The problem I see at least while I was in SF, cyclists generally believed since they were riding a bike, they had the right of way in all scenarios. I still have vivid memories of almost smoking a cyclist while on my motorcycle only for them to be mad at me when I tried to explain to them that zipping in between lines of cars will get them run over. If you are to mingle bicycle son the same roads as cars, they need to follow the same rules.