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Re:TSMC to build second Japan chip factory, raising investme... by boringuser2 on Wednesday February 07, 2024 @09:05AM (#39288688)
The thing is, TSMC floundered in America because they had to compensate American workers.

American workers aren't cheap.

These brutal Asian work cultures can only exist in Asia.

Americans and Europeans compete through ingenuity and intellect economically, not through a meat grinder of hard work. It's much different.

America's plan to revitalize their industry cannot be contingent on the graces of foreign countries.

China is grinding out their own domestic chip manufacturing even though it's far behind the technological sophistication of Taiwan. In the long run, China's strategy is vastly superior.

It's a bit embarrassing.

Re:TSMC to build second Japan chip factory, raising investme... by _kb on Wednesday February 07, 2024 @09:19AM (#39288848)
By the stats, USA is the brutal one: https://data.oecd.org/chart/7kW3.
Re:TSMC to build second Japan chip factory, raising investme... by 1000100_1000101 on Wednesday February 07, 2024 @09:29AM (#39288969)
While that does have Japan, the link lacks China and many other countries. Check out this list from Wikipedia[0]

[0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_average_a...

Re:TSMC to build second Japan chip factory, raising investme... by Yiin on Wednesday February 07, 2024 @10:48AM (#39289953)
Could be a case where US workers work those hours officially, but Japan workers work a lot on unpaid overtime in addition to those hours.
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Re:TSMC to build second Japan chip factory, raising investme... by sanxiyn on Wednesday February 07, 2024 @09:27AM (#39288932)
Highlighted countries in the chart is US and Japan and US is working more hours than Japan. Since TSMC is happy to build factories in Japan, it should be happy to build factories in US, working hours wise.
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Re:TSMC to build second Japan chip factory, raising investme... by tonmoy on Wednesday February 07, 2024 @09:50AM (#39289224)
Re:TSMC to build second Japan chip factory, raising investme... by altcognito on Wednesday February 07, 2024 @09:42AM (#39289130)
Make your point without name calling or being insulting.
Re:TSMC to build second Japan chip factory, raising investme... by immawizard on Wednesday February 07, 2024 @01:38PM (#39292399)
Per source: “ The data are intended for comparisons of trends over time; they are unsuitable for comparisons of the level of average annual hours of work for a given year, because of differences in their sources and method of calculation.” https://data.oecd.org/emp/hours-worked.htm
Re:TSMC to build second Japan chip factory, raising investme... by newswasboring on Wednesday February 07, 2024 @10:46AM (#39289933)
From my experience working at TSMC, although the number of work hours are higher it definitely is not brain dead the way you are sketching out to be. They are solving really hard problems with really short deadlines. I also don't see how a factory can work any other way. Every second the machine is down you lose millions, literally.
Re:TSMC to build second Japan chip factory, raising investme... by trealira on Wednesday February 07, 2024 @11:36AM (#39290664)
There have been former workers who claimed that there were unsafe working conditions there, and that they were called lazy by higher-ups:

https://www.theguardian.com/business/2023/aug/28/phoenix-mic...

Re:TSMC to build second Japan chip factory, raising investme... by newswasboring on Friday February 09, 2024 @07:34AM (#39314138)
I don't see how this connects to what I said.