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Re:Why Walmart pays its truck drivers 6 figures by packetlost on Monday January 29, 2024 @02:57PM (#39181607)
Walmart is somewhat notorious in the OTR trucking industry for having high wages, but very high barrier to entry. You need a near perfect driving record among other things.

OTR trucking overall pays pretty well, but it's an extremely physically and emotionally taxing job that doesn't really get the credit it deserves. How would you feel if you were "home" for a weekend every 2 weeks and living in 20sqft the rest of the time?

Re:Why Walmart pays its truck drivers 6 figures by jzb on Monday January 29, 2024 @04:02PM (#39182549)
In college I had a friend whose father was an OTR trucker. Absolutely destroyed his back. He had back problems when I first met the family and a few years later he was on medical leave and unable to work, and he was maybe in his late 50s.

He wasn't driving for Walmart of making that kind of money then, so I hope he was able to move into a different career that didn't do further damage.

It's not a job I'd want to do. Ergonomics aside, I find driving to be very unpleasant in large doses. Having to put up with traffic, shitty drivers, weather, and everything else 8-12 hours per day is not my idea of a great time.

Re:Why Walmart pays its truck drivers 6 figures by packetlost on Monday January 29, 2024 @04:10PM (#39182658)
My mother was an OTR trucker during most of my teenage years, including driving for Walmart under contract (so not paid amazingly well, but regularly interacted with the Walmart employees at the DC in Tomah, WI). It's not always back breaking work, but access to (healthy) food is a major issue. For Walmart specifically, there's not much physical effort involved besides lowering the trailer landing gear, which is almost always done with a manual crank. The Walmart backroom staff handle unloading and the DC staff handle loading, which would be very very taxing to do constantly.
Re:Why Walmart pays its truck drivers 6 figures by fuzztester on Monday January 29, 2024 @05:53PM (#39183911)
why is access to healthy food an issue? because truckers, being on the road, have to eat in poor quality restaurants, such as diners, maybe?
Re:Why Walmart pays its truck drivers 6 figures by packetlost on Monday January 29, 2024 @06:35PM (#39184271)
In a truck you can't just... drive anywhere. There are designated legal routes that you can't deviate from under most circumstances. The vast majority of food you have access to as a trucker is gas station/truck stop food and fast food attached to truck stops. You have limited cooking options in a truck, maybe a small waffle iron, rice cooker, or microwave. Most won't have room or power for something like a refrigerator (some might, it depends) so keeping non-dry food isn't really an option.
Re:Why Walmart pays its truck drivers 6 figures by biggestdummy on Monday January 29, 2024 @06:32PM (#39184245)
First, your work day is almost completely sedentary. Second, you are not near friends, gyms, fields, or other systems which promote healthy activity outside of work. While diet is important for all of us, it is especially important in this circumstance.

"Healthy foods" are going to be largely inaccessible through long sparsely-populated stretches of the country. Even where they are available - in markets, fruit stands, etc. pulling your huge truck off the road to park is expensive (in terms of time) and difficult (in terms of space). Truck stops have the infrastructure for your truck. But their food selection is mostly junk.

Re:Why Walmart pays its truck drivers 6 figures by genocidicbunny on Monday January 29, 2024 @06:33PM (#39184258)
They generally don't have access to a kitchen or a large refrigerator, so meals tend to either be from a restaurant (where most restaurants, good and bad, are arguably not healthy unless you severely portion-limit) or something that can be reheated in a microwave or portable air fryer. In combination, this results in a not quite healthy diet.
Re:Why Walmart pays its truck drivers 6 figures by fuzztester on Tuesday January 30, 2024 @12:15AM (#39186606)
thanks to all for the good answers.
Re:Why Walmart pays its truck drivers 6 figures by throwaway2037 on Monday January 29, 2024 @07:30PM (#39184767)
What is it in particular about truck driving that is so bad for your back? I hear this so often.

Please don't reply "sitting down all day". I have been doing that for more than 20 years in a comfortable office (mostly Hermann Miller Aeron), and my back is fine.

My guess: The vibrations of the truck are awful for your bones.

Re:Why Walmart pays its truck drivers 6 figures by massysett on Monday January 29, 2024 @09:19PM (#39185641)
Do you ever get up? Maybe turn your head from side to side, or stretch your legs out under your desk? Or go to the bathroom whenever you want?

Driving freezes your body into one position for hours on end. Doing it in a car for a few hours on a road trip makes my neck hurt. Doing it every day would be deleterious very quickly.

I work at a computer at a desk, but the ability to stand up at will just to use the toilet makes a big difference. Can’t do that driving a truck.

Re:Why Walmart pays its truck drivers 6 figures by WalterBright on Monday January 29, 2024 @03:49PM (#39182362)
> You need a near perfect driving record among other things.

Absolutely. If a driver is at fault in an accident, Walmart will get sued for $zillions.

I once knew a middle aged man laying tile. I asked him why was he laying tile for crap wages. He said he lost his trucking license because he had a DUI (not while trucking). Doing construction was the only job he could get. He was quite bitter about it.

Re:Why Walmart pays its truck drivers 6 figures by beaeglebeached on Monday January 29, 2024 @04:14PM (#39182702)
I built my own house because almost every step was more expensive hourly labor than me writing software for an hour instead.

Even the lower rate such as concrete laborers wanted 100+ an hour.

I suspect the low pay of many of these trades is just a symptom of housing and construction being the number one money laundering industry and thus tradesman are always saying they're making nothing while simultaneously asking 100+ an hour cash and working full weeks.

Id bet the BLS income reports are off by like 50+%.

Re:Why Walmart pays its truck drivers 6 figures by bernawil on Monday January 29, 2024 @06:00PM (#39183958)
I think you mean tax dodging instead of money laundering there. Though, if they are really succesful dodging taxes, they might need to do some money laundering later, too.
Re:Why Walmart pays its truck drivers 6 figures by evilduck on Monday January 29, 2024 @10:47PM (#39186185)
It's a bit of both.

It's not too hard to get cash-only "customers" to buy services you don't have to actually perform.

It's also pretty easy to write two invoices, feign a mixup, and skim some off the top of a payment.

Re:Why Walmart pays its truck drivers 6 figures by hellotomyrars on Monday January 29, 2024 @11:43PM (#39186470)
Where is your house? Those rates are not typical nationwide but I know a general contractor who is involved in construction on the islands near Bellingham and the rates there are like what you describe.

I agree that in my experience a lot of contractors would rather deal with cash and it isn’t exactly a secret why. I got a significant all cash discount on a new roof.

Re:Why Walmart pays its truck drivers 6 figures by packetlost on Monday January 29, 2024 @04:08PM (#39182622)
Pretty sure a DUI bars you from holding a CDL of any kind, not specifically a trucking license. I don't see a problem with that at all.
Re:Why Walmart pays its truck drivers 6 figures by throwaway2037 on Monday January 29, 2024 @07:32PM (#39184787)
Wow, if true, that is harsh. If you made a mistake at 18 or 19 years old, then you are condemned for life to never hold a CDL (commercial driving license). That doesn't see fair.
Re:Why Walmart pays its truck drivers 6 figures by stavros on Monday January 29, 2024 @08:03PM (#39185050)
I'm assuming that's if you get the DUI while you have a trucking license.
Re:Why Walmart pays its truck drivers 6 figures by packetlost on Monday January 29, 2024 @08:17PM (#39185180)
In WI, you lose it for a year on first offense. Second offense is life.

Source: https://wisconsindot.gov/Documents/dmv/shared/cdl-disq.pdf

Re:Why Walmart pays its truck drivers 6 figures by datavirtue on Monday January 29, 2024 @08:15PM (#39185164)
And the isolation. Sociable people claim they just look at people and can't get words to come out after being in a truck for six months.