News for hackers. Stuff that matters.
Re:I used to not worry about climate change. Now I do by slibhb on Sunday January 28, 2024 @07:14AM (#39164945)
The IPCC 6 says "It is very unlikely that gas clathrates (mostly methane) in deeper terrestrial permafrost and subsea clathrates will lead to a detectable departure from the emissions trajectory during this century".

Your pessimism may be trendy but it isn't supported by the bear available evidence.

Re:I used to not worry about climate change. Now I do by pk-protect-ai on Sunday January 28, 2024 @07:41AM (#39165128)
Don't misunderstand me here. I'd rather be wrong regarding my "doomism," and I no longer worry about climate change; it doesn't make sense to worry about something that can't be changed. However, I observe that people aren't scared enough to take action. They continue to dance around the issue in political euphoria. The changes to our lifestyle are happening too slowly to be effective. The gas and oil industry is doing a lot of carbon emission washing, like CSS. Many optimists argue, "We can't predict it, therefore we shouldn't be worried."
Re:I used to not worry about climate change. Now I do by Elextric on Sunday January 28, 2024 @08:09AM (#39165348)
Re:I used to not worry about climate change. Now I do by bemusedthrow75 on Sunday January 28, 2024 @09:11AM (#39165936)
Perhaps this is fundamental attribution error:

You don’t worry because it’s inevitable. You perceive them not worrying, but they aren’t scared enough?

What if they also have the (intuitive, but not necessarily correct) sense that it’s inevitable?

Re:I used to not worry about climate change. Now I do by ajross on Sunday January 28, 2024 @10:10AM (#39166464)
> I observe that people aren't scared enough to take action. They continue to dance around the issue in political euphoria. The changes to our lifestyle are happening too slowly to be effective.

These are all reasonable observations, but they don't remotely substantiate "The chances of humanity surviving are incredibly slim, IMO."

Just tone down the hyperbole. No serious informed science exists to predict human extinction, though lots of ecosystems and most large wild animals are at high risk.

Re:I used to not worry about climate change. Now I do by pk-protect-ai on Monday January 29, 2024 @06:53AM (#39175264)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_extinction_events

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clathrate_gun_hypothesis

Citation: The associated period of massive carbon release into the atmosphere has been estimated to have lasted from 20,000 to 50,000 years. The entire warm period lasted for about 200,000 years. Global temperatures increased by 5–8 °C.[21]

The hot-models Sabine referred to are in range of 4.8 - 5.6 if I'm not mistaken...

Re:I used to not worry about climate change. Now I do by ajross on Monday January 29, 2024 @04:12PM (#39182681)
So, to avoid engaging in a Gish Gallop on this issue, I'm going to ignore the specifics except to point out that neither of those links says anything about human extinction at all.

It is reasonable to be concerned. But deploying easily-refuted hyperbole makes your (our!) cause MORE likely to be ignored as crackpot nonsense, not less.

Re:I used to not worry about climate change. Now I do by pk-protect-ai on Monday January 29, 2024 @10:58PM (#39186246)
Do you really mean that humans can survive without ecosystem? Mass extinction events are causing chain reactions ... I do not care about the causes. I'm not a climate activist. I'm just an average guy that can't do a squat and tired to be afraid for my children's future. I just accepted the fact that humanity will destroy itself sooner or later. I do not see any point in expecting wonders.
Re:I used to not worry about climate change. Now I do by slibhb on Sunday January 28, 2024 @11:03AM (#39166945)
Maybe people aren't scared because they disagree with your wild, unscientific assertion that "the chances of humanity surviving are incredibly slim, IMO"
Re:I used to not worry about climate change. Now I do by ejb999 on Sunday January 28, 2024 @12:06PM (#39167610)
or maybe they are not scared because time and time again, political figures and climate activists have made outrageous claims about what was about to happen, only for it not to happen - over, and over, and over again.

I get it, being hysterical makes headlines - but you know what else it does? causes people to tune out and use the previous hysterical, but wrong, proclamations as proof that nothing needs to be done.

You know what also doesn't help? the elite flying around the world in private jets talking about how we are all doomed if we don't do something (like $50 trillion dollars of something)...and then they return to their multi-million dollar, 20 bedroom homes built just feet above sea-level.

Not to mention those same elites in Davos telling each other about this great '$50 Trillion dollar opportunity' - i.e. yet another opportunity for the 1% of the 1% to figure out how to take trillions from people poorer than them, to make themselves even richer by scaring governments and voters into acting, so they can profit.

https://www.dw.com/en/davos-green-transition-is-50-trillion-...

Why should we believe alarmists at this point? All I see is the elites trying to figure out how to make themselves even richer, by making everyone else poorer - and they have the perfect boogeyman to make it happen.

Re:I used to not worry about climate change. Now I do by refurb on Sunday January 28, 2024 @08:14AM (#39165396)
It’s interesting how the right has their “the economy is going to explode because we left the gold standard” preppers and the left has their “we’re all going to die because of global warming” preppers.
Re:I used to not worry about climate change. Now I do by baq on Sunday January 28, 2024 @10:50AM (#39166820)
You can always print more money… it’s harder to print clouds
Re:I used to not worry about climate change. Now I do by specialist on Sunday January 28, 2024 @08:27AM (#39165512)
Now refute ocean acidification and burning forests.