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Re:ICJ Orders Israel to Prevent Genocide Without Cease-Fire by mschuster91 on Friday January 26, 2024 @02:27PM (#39146953)
> Gaza has a sizable coastline, and China has a large number of amphibious assault ships available. They can defend themselves against Israel air attacks.

Chinese warships will never be allowed anywhere near the Mediterranean in the first place - if there is one thing that even the split US Congress will agree on, it is that China already has too much influence and that they need to be stopped.

Additionally, China's army hasn't seen actual combat in a loooong time. It's likely that their army is in just as bad of a shape as Russia's is, and getting that demonstrated on the world stage before they have a chance to snack a piece or the whole of Taiwan would be pretty foolish.

Re:ICJ Orders Israel to Prevent Genocide Without Cease-Fire by rightbyte on Friday January 26, 2024 @02:41PM (#39147142)
> Chinese warships will never be allowed anywhere near the Mediterranean in the first place

There have been Chinese navy visits to the Mediterranean. You can sail in on international water. (Edit: Nope, it's to narrow)

"Chinese naval ships visit Morocco"

http://eng.chinamil.com.cn/CHINA_209163/Exchanges/News_20918...

Re:ICJ Orders Israel to Prevent Genocide Without Cease-Fire by tomp on Friday January 26, 2024 @03:48PM (#39148078)
Casablanca is Atlantic, not Mediterranean.

You cannot get into the Mediterranean without passing through territorial waters.

Re:ICJ Orders Israel to Prevent Genocide Without Cease-Fire by rightbyte on Friday January 26, 2024 @03:55PM (#39148187)
Ok the Strait of Gibraltar was way narrower than I thought it would be and I mixed up the location of Marocco and Tunisia ...

Grabbing for straws: "Chinese naval escort taskforce visits Tunisia"

http://eng.chinamil.com.cn/CHINA_209163/TopStories_209189/79...

Re:ICJ Orders Israel to Prevent Genocide Without Cease-Fire by DDSDev on Friday January 26, 2024 @05:06PM (#39149260)
While what you are saying is technically true, Chinese ships would be allowed to exercise their right of Transit Passage under UNCLOS through the Strait of Gibraltar.
Re:ICJ Orders Israel to Prevent Genocide Without Cease-Fire by InTheArena on Friday January 26, 2024 @05:25PM (#39149560)
China is not a signatory of the UNCLOS. See the south china see debacle for an easy answer as to why.
Re:ICJ Orders Israel to Prevent Genocide Without Cease-Fire by DDSDev on Friday January 26, 2024 @05:57PM (#39149968)
To my knowledge, China is a signatory to UNCLOS, but has disputes around it's "islands" in the South China Sea and their relation to the EEZ. I acknowledge that China's relationship to UNCLOS, as a minimum, is complicated and rapidly evolving, but I dispute that they do not have a right to transit passage. Or to be more specific, I would put forward that they would have a plausible argument to claim transit passage.

The United States has not ratified UNCLOS, and regularly claims the right of Transit Passage. In fact, this fact is one of the reasons why Iran claims that the United States cannot enter into Iranian TTW while making a Strait of Hormuz transit - because the US has not ratified UNCLOS, their claim is that the US cannot claim transit passage. For the United States (or any Western Nation) to make the claim that China cannot claim Transit Passage would lend weight to Iran's argument, which you can imagine, they would not want to do.

I do not want to make any assumptions around your specific views on this matter - you may hold the opinion that China could not claim transit passage, however I wanted to interject some perspective that:

1. That may not be universally agreed upon 2. Specifically, the United States and it's allies may not make that argument because it would put them in a negative position for other international disputes.

Re:ICJ Orders Israel to Prevent Genocide Without Cease-Fire by maxglute on Friday January 26, 2024 @05:40PM (#39149775)
PRC is a signatory to UNCLOS.

PRC actions in SCS is not legally against UNCLOS. Reality is, everything PRC does currently in SCS is legally grey area until UNCLOS/ITLOS/UN actually rule against it in official capacity. PCA ruling is essentially a term paper on official looking letterhead drafted by anti PRC lawfare, pretending to be international law. It's one (strong) legal interpretation, but it's not settled case under UNCLOS - UN (which UNCLOS law operates under) does not recognize or comment on PCA ruling.

Re:ICJ Orders Israel to Prevent Genocide Without Cease-Fire by dang on Friday January 26, 2024 @02:55PM (#39147337)
Please make your substantive points without snark or swipes.

https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

Re:ICJ Orders Israel to Prevent Genocide Without Cease-Fire by rightbyte on Friday January 26, 2024 @03:20PM (#39147670)
Ye sorry, edited.
Re:ICJ Orders Israel to Prevent Genocide Without Cease-Fire by muchosandwich on Friday January 26, 2024 @02:31PM (#39146998)
China has been skirmishing with India pretty recently