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Re:BrowserEngineKit – Apple Developer Documentation by nolok on Friday January 26, 2024 @05:08AM (#39140822)
What you're saying is "If you don't like the walled garden, don't buy john deere", essentially.

When a product start becoming such an important part of its owner life, and has such a huge market share, I believe society should impose some rules on it to ensure it conforms with the ideals of said society. In this case, ability to be in control your non niche computing device.

So I think this is a case where we must agree to disagree.

Re:BrowserEngineKit – Apple Developer Documentation by secretsatan on Friday January 26, 2024 @05:26AM (#39140993)
`When a product start becoming such an important part of its owner life, and has such a huge market share, I believe society should impose some rules on it to ensure it conforms with the ideals of said society. In this case, ability to be in control your non niche computing device.`

But people buy them because of the restriction that you don't like. you're imposing your own standard on something you probably wouldn't even buy. I doubt most users give one single thought to rooting their phone

Re:BrowserEngineKit – Apple Developer Documentation by nolok on Friday January 26, 2024 @05:34AM (#39141046)
> But people buy them because of the restriction that you don't like

You will need a source that people buy them because of the restriction.

> you're imposing your own standard

No, our EU society has done so, through our elected parliament.

> I doubt most users give one single thought to rooting their phone

This subject has nothing to do with rooting a phone.

Re:BrowserEngineKit – Apple Developer Documentation by cqqxo4zV46cp on Friday January 26, 2024 @06:53AM (#39141620)
I do.

There you go.

Now you can argue with more nuance than “users are being held hostage!”

Re:BrowserEngineKit – Apple Developer Documentation by nolok on Friday January 26, 2024 @09:03AM (#39142668)
Yes you do, and others do not, which is why my point was society at large while you said "users".

I did not say nor imply what you put in quote, you chose to read that which is different.

Re:BrowserEngineKit – Apple Developer Documentation by Hamuko on Friday January 26, 2024 @06:02AM (#39141254)
"Because" or "despite"? Because I don't remember anyone ever saying that they prefer iOS because it only has Safari on it.