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Re:Zed, a collaborative code editor, is now open source by davidmurdoch on Wednesday January 24, 2024 @05:28PM (#39123446)
It's "worse than bad" because it's just a flat out lie?
Re:Zed, a collaborative code editor, is now open source by sarlalian on Wednesday January 24, 2024 @05:38PM (#39123552)
It is not a lie, it just doesn't mean exactly what you want it to, and is certainly unintentionally misleading. You can work with code remotely on any machine.
Re:Zed, a collaborative code editor, is now open source by thomastjeffery on Wednesday January 24, 2024 @05:49PM (#39123684)
You can't install MacOS any machine. You can't install it on most machines. You can install it exclusively on a Mac, a hackintosh, or a VM.

I'm not trying to assume or criticize their intentions. I'm criticizing their unintentional mistake.

Re:Zed, a collaborative code editor, is now open source by sarlalian on Wednesday January 24, 2024 @06:03PM (#39123842)
My reply was to contextualize that it wasn't a lie. Maybe a poor choice of words, but given the context on the page, it's clear what it is talking about, which isn't the application being cross platform. A lie implies deception, which I think given the context on the page there wasn't any intention to deceive, just poorly chosen words that can have different meanings depending on the context.
Re:Zed, a collaborative code editor, is now open source by thomastjeffery on Wednesday January 24, 2024 @06:19PM (#39123980)
> A lie implies deception

No it doesn't.

I don't need to carefully choose every word I write, just to make sure it is unambiguously charitable. That's not only a ridiculous notion, it's impossible. Natural language is ambiguous to its core.

You can infer what I write to be intentionally rude, but it's just as easy to infer the opposite. I'm not forcing you to do either.

Re:Zed, a collaborative code editor, is now open source by sarlalian on Wednesday January 24, 2024 @06:42PM (#39124202)
I didn't infer anything you said was rude (that was someone else). I was just pointing out that the statement "Work with code on any machine" isn't a lie. It isn't even wrong. Clearly it didn't convey exactly what they wanted to. And that lack of clarity has frustrated several people who by all appearances skimmed the text and missed the rest of the context around that statement.

Calling it a lie is hyperbolic and inflammatory. As you said, language is ambiguous, and that line is definitely ambiguous. It doesn't seem to be incorrect in the context that it was written, just in the way one could interpret it without reading the following paragraph. I don't know man, feel free to continue to assume malice here when it's just mediocre copy.

Re:Zed, a collaborative code editor, is now open source by davidmurdoch on Wednesday January 24, 2024 @05:41PM (#39123578)
Words have actual meanings.
Re:Zed, a collaborative code editor, is now open source by sarlalian on Wednesday January 24, 2024 @05:59PM (#39123800)
The full text is:

> Work with code on any machine > When you join a teammate's project, you can navigate and edit as if the code is on your local machine. Open any file, type with low latency, and interact with language servers. It all works seamlessly, whether you're working with someone at the next desk or on a different continent.

I'm curious what part of that indicates that it means any operating system? It is clearly talking about treating remote machines as local machines. Yes, words have actual meanings but they also have context in which they are said or printed.

Re:Zed, a collaborative code editor, is now open source by davidmurdoch on Wednesday January 24, 2024 @06:36PM (#39124147)
It's the context of the entire page that gives it that meaning.

Here's an interesting perspective: https://chat.openai.com/share/6ac010c4-dc4c-43ec-8b34-fc68a2...

Re:Zed, a collaborative code editor, is now open source by sarlalian on Wednesday January 24, 2024 @06:46PM (#39124233)
I'm assuming that chatgpt agrees with you, personally I'm avoiding using their software until they figure out a better relationship with content creators / artists than they have right now. I still think calling it a lie is hyperbolic and inflammatory when it's just mediocre copy. Hope you have a great day.