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Re:Meta now lets EU users unlink their Facebook, Messenger a... by josephcsible on Monday January 22, 2024 @12:06PM (#39091955)
It annoys me every time a company makes a long-requested change, but only for EU users. Since the technical work required for it had to be done anyway, it seems to be pure malice that they don't just give it to everyone.
Re:Meta now lets EU users unlink their Facebook, Messenger a... by judge2020 on Monday January 22, 2024 @12:29PM (#39092327)
> it seems to be pure malice that they don't just give it to everyone.

Only if you consider malice ~= profit.

Re:Meta now lets EU users unlink their Facebook, Messenger a... by guerrilla on Monday January 22, 2024 @04:04PM (#39095409)
Why would you not? What is malice if not intentionally harming people out of greed? Is it only malice if the intention is explicitly and strictly sadistic?
Re:Meta now lets EU users unlink their Facebook, Messenger a... by LightBug1 on Monday January 22, 2024 @06:25PM (#39097040)
Some woeful 'giving the benefit of the doubt' in some of these comments. No disrespect.
Re:Meta now lets EU users unlink their Facebook, Messenger a... by baliex on Monday January 22, 2024 @12:20PM (#39092186)
Not just malice, profit too
Re:Meta now lets EU users unlink their Facebook, Messenger a... by micromacrofoot on Monday January 22, 2024 @12:29PM (#39092335)
isn't this the "free market" that many in the US brag about?
Re:Meta now lets EU users unlink their Facebook, Messenger a... by int_19h on Monday January 22, 2024 @02:09PM (#39093888)
Not quite. It would be a free market if people could freely move across borders. The overall arrangement that we have - where goods and services flow almost freely, but the movement of consumers and labor is restricted - is inherently abusive.
Re:Meta now lets EU users unlink their Facebook, Messenger a... by altairTF on Monday January 22, 2024 @12:48PM (#39092653)
Kinda, but this is also how the free market dies—happens little by little. A change here, a law there that helps the people, oops, now the law makes it harder for competition to get in, and so on and so forth.
Re:Meta now lets EU users unlink their Facebook, Messenger a... by pgeorgi on Monday January 22, 2024 @01:14PM (#39093048)
The business models this regulation harms are the business models that aren't desired to begin with. As such, a competitor is encouraged by regulation to find another, compliant angle to deal with monetization.

And competitors that already do that get an uplift (over time, but still).

Re:Meta now lets EU users unlink their Facebook, Messenger a... by DaiPlusPlus on Monday January 22, 2024 @01:40PM (#39093448)
Btu a free market (which is devoid of anti-competition regulation) also makes it harder for competition to get-in. Not to mention the problems of regulatory-capture (see: Boeing and the FAA).

It's almost as if the best (or rather: least-worst) option we have lies somewhere in-between laissez faire capitalism and mandatory state-ownership of all industry...

Re:Meta now lets EU users unlink their Facebook, Messenger a... by altairTF on Monday January 22, 2024 @03:39PM (#39095110)
I don't think even the most well-intentioned state have the incentives to properly allocate resources in the market. Usually, when state-owned industries fail, the taxpayer suffers, so the administration has little to no incentive to actually do good in the long run.
Re:Meta now lets EU users unlink their Facebook, Messenger a... by int_19h on Monday January 22, 2024 @02:14PM (#39093963)
It's not a 1D spectrum. You can have laissez-faire arrangements that still preclude massive concentration of capital (and thus effectively gut capitalism) without going all in on public ownership of everything. The key thing to remember is that private property rights themselves require some kind of government to maintain by using force when necessary - i.e. the existence of private property is inherently a step away from true "laissez-faire". Thus the government doesn't need to aggressively collectivize anything to avoid concentration of capital; it just needs to refuse to protect such concentrated capital.
Re:Meta now lets EU users unlink their Facebook, Messenger a... by csallen on Monday January 22, 2024 @02:04PM (#39093819)
> somewhere in-between laissez faire capitalism and mandatory state-ownership of all industry >

Yes, which describes both the US and Europe. It just comes down to where to fall on that spectrum.

Re:Meta now lets EU users unlink their Facebook, Messenger a... by mrtksn on Monday January 22, 2024 @08:55PM (#39098524)
If you think about it, the US seems to be voluntarily headed to universal plug for charging EVs after many years of incompatibility. EU got that almost immediately.

Though, it can be argued that the US plug is a bit better since the standart that almost all companies finally agreed to adopt is the Tesla one. However, it could have been the other way around too - the companies could have adopted a very shitty plug if Tesla had a shitty plug simply because their adoption is based on the charging network dominance and not on the plug superiority.

So, I guess its not a clear cut.

Re:Meta now lets EU users unlink their Facebook, Messenger a... by averageRoyalty on Tuesday January 23, 2024 @05:13PM (#39110693)
You know there's a lot more world out there than the EU and US, right?
Re:Meta now lets EU users unlink their Facebook, Messenger a... by mrtksn on Tuesday January 23, 2024 @06:08PM (#39111281)
Sure, you should write about it.