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Re:Apple sold an estimated 180K Vision Pro units during the ... by ado__dev on Monday January 22, 2024 @11:14AM (#39091143)
Yeah. I feel like any gen 1 product is going to have a lot of issues. So unless you really want to be a super-early adopted and deal with the issues, lack of apps, etc. it's hard to justify a purchase.

I love being an early adopter, but not at $3,500, so I'll be waiting for gen 2 or 3.

Re:Apple sold an estimated 180K Vision Pro units during the ... by Panini_Jones on Monday January 22, 2024 @11:31AM (#39091378)
I would be surprised if the price dropped. I believe Apple is known for keeping their pricing fairly neutral or increasing it. You could get a Gen 1 second hand, though.
Re:Apple sold an estimated 180K Vision Pro units during the ... by slama on Monday January 22, 2024 @11:38AM (#39091496)
Apple introduced it as the "Pro" model which is the high end line in apple-parlance. I'd expect a future non-pro model to slot in under it with all the essential features.

I also wouldn't be surprised if the Vision Pro eventually retails for $2999 instead of $3499. Today, it's a relatively low volume product and I'd expect costs to fall when Apple makes a push for a larger market

Re:Apple sold an estimated 180K Vision Pro units during the ... by paulcole on Monday January 22, 2024 @11:37AM (#39091481)
If there's not a sub-$2,000 version of this thing in 18 months, it's going to get put in Apple's attic alongside the Newton and G4 cube.

Essentially no consumer is spending $3,500 on a single tech purchase anymore. That price point is just way too high for anything but niche business use and I just don't see Apple being willing to settle for that niche.

Re:Apple sold an estimated 180K Vision Pro units during the ... by steveBK123 on Monday January 22, 2024 @12:12PM (#39092028)
Right, unless it replaces another $2000+ device, it's pretty hard to get mass market adoption at a $2000 price point, let alone 2x above that all-in.

The market for $2000 laptops is decent for example, but this thing for productivity use cases still needs you to own the $2000 laptop to connect to!

Cameras have moved higher end as the market has shrunk, but there still aren't that many of us buying $4000 cameras.

Even inflation adjusted, this is about 3x the intro iPhone price. Mass adoption followed when the price got cut 40% and they worked out subsidy & financing with the carriers so optically the price became 80% lower.

Re:Apple sold an estimated 180K Vision Pro units during the ... by ado__dev on Monday January 22, 2024 @11:42AM (#39091572)
Unless they can deliver a totally game-changing experience imo. And so far it looks like they have the best VR/AR headset on the market, but will that be enough, remains to be seen.

Like if Apple is able to provide such a good experience, that I don't need multiple monitors for work, I could easily justify that purchase. But it would have to have great battery life, support virtual screens, provide a fast and smooth experience, be super comfortable even after 6-7 hours, etc. I don't think Gen 1 will check all those boxes off, but gen 2-3-4, maybe.

Re:Apple sold an estimated 180K Vision Pro units during the ... by pitherpather on Monday January 22, 2024 @04:22PM (#39095641)
> unless .. game-changing

I have been silently dismissive until seeing a c.a. 5 minute ad on YouTube last night. Now I would be interested in at least trying the experience. However, I am wondering if the sales video might be better rendered (or somehow more impressive?) than the VR/AR itself.

Re:Apple sold an estimated 180K Vision Pro units during the ... by flappyeagle on Monday January 22, 2024 @01:11PM (#39093012)
There’s at least 180,000
Re:Apple sold an estimated 180K Vision Pro units during the ... by paulcole on Monday January 22, 2024 @03:36PM (#39095062)
Apple sold 200 million iPhones last year.
Re:Apple sold an estimated 180K Vision Pro units during the ... by yunwal on Monday January 22, 2024 @02:46PM (#39094396)
If there’s any company capable of raising the overton window of tech pricing it’s apple. The price of AirPods Max seemed like a joke when it came out, but I see them everywhere.
Re:Apple sold an estimated 180K Vision Pro units during the ... by paulcole on Monday January 22, 2024 @03:58PM (#39095351)
Yeah they did do a great job of taking headphones/earbuds from throwaway freebies to $100-$200 must-haves and then pushing that to $500 with the Max. Although the Max certainly isn't a must have for most people.

I just a hard time believing that $3,500 is the price point they have in mind for VR stuff. In my own head, I had decided to insta-buy if it was $2,000 at launch and I wasn't even close.

Re:Apple sold an estimated 180K Vision Pro units during the ... by mrgordon on Monday January 22, 2024 @12:31PM (#39092375)
Early buyers of the original iPhone got money back like six months later when the price was cut. I believe around $200
Re:Apple sold an estimated 180K Vision Pro units during the ... by latexr on Monday January 22, 2024 @12:35PM (#39092442)
> I would be surprised if the price dropped.

I wouldn’t, especially under Tim Cook.

> I believe Apple is known for keeping their pricing fairly neutral or increasing it.

For the flagship product, sure. But older generations get discounted. The iPhone 15 is out, yet they continue to sell 14 and 13.

Re:Apple sold an estimated 180K Vision Pro units during the ... by theturtletalks on Monday January 22, 2024 @12:50PM (#39092703)
It also depends on if they will refresh it every year. The AirPods Max came out a while ago and the price still hasn’t dropped.