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Re:Apple Watch no longer sold with blood oxygen monitoring a... by paganel on Sunday January 21, 2024 @06:30PM (#39084154)
Are those oxygen monitoring apps any good? (including the Apple Watch one, I mean). I remember that during Covid there was a big gap between what these devices were telling their users and the numbers measured by actual medical equipment (with the latter being those closer to the truth, of course).
Re:Apple Watch no longer sold with blood oxygen monitoring a... by brandonb on Sunday January 21, 2024 @07:12PM (#39084479)
Researchers measured the accuracy of the Apple Watch's oxygen sensor, and found it was as reliable as a medical-grade device: https://data.empirical.health/p/is-the-apple-watchs-blood-ox...

The FDA doesn't regulate "over the counter" oxygen sensors (including those you find at a CVS or Walgreens), but that study suggests that if they did, Apple could get an FDA clearance. They already have several FDA clearances for the Apple Watch's ECG, irregular rhythm notifications, and afib history features.

The oxygen sensor is helpful for detecting, among other things, sleep apnea, where 60-80% of people are undiagnosed.

Re:Apple Watch no longer sold with blood oxygen monitoring a... by mslip1 on Sunday January 21, 2024 @09:28PM (#39085393)
I believe the Apple Watch is a class 2 medical device because it alerts you if it thinks you’re having a heart attack. They probably got a 510k for this and based it on some other predicate device
Re:Apple Watch no longer sold with blood oxygen monitoring a... by mikestew on Sunday January 21, 2024 @11:38PM (#39086253)
“Apple Watch cannot check for signs of a heart attack.”

— Apple Watch ECG App

You’re probably thinking of afib, which I believe the watch will alert for.

Re:Apple Watch no longer sold with blood oxygen monitoring a... by pi-e-sigma on Sunday January 21, 2024 @06:44PM (#39084257)
All medical-grade blood oxygen sensors that I have seen in hospitals are put on the tip of the finger. This arrangement allows them to beam light through the human flesh and measure how much of it is absorbed - the light source is on one side of the finger and the sensor on the other and there is no bone between them at the tip of the finger, just tissue with lots of blood in it. Smart watches are carried on the wrist so they can only measure light reflected back which gives much lower sensitivity and accuracy.
Re:Apple Watch no longer sold with blood oxygen monitoring a... by fhsm on Sunday January 21, 2024 @06:46PM (#39084268)
They can be decent but can be totally wrong too:

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC10039641/

Re:Apple Watch no longer sold with blood oxygen monitoring a... by andsoitis on Sunday January 21, 2024 @06:35PM (#39084188)
I use my Oura ring for that - https://support.ouraring.com/hc/en-us/articles/7328398760851...

Like other consumer device manufacturers they have a disclaimer that it isn't a medical device, with concomitant implications.

I have not compared with medical equipment but am interested in doing so, or hear from others who have.

Re:Apple Watch no longer sold with blood oxygen monitoring a... by amluto on Sunday January 21, 2024 @06:47PM (#39084287)
Not great.

I have no idea how accurate they are, but they’re very fiddly and don’t produce a reading at all unless conditions are ideal.