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Re:Google search is losing the fight with SEO spam by datadrivenangel on Saturday January 20, 2024 @11:08AM (#39068949)
Kagi and DuckDuckGo are viable search engines! Often as good as google, sometimes better given all the SEO spam!
Re:Google search is losing the fight with SEO spam by jan_Sate on Saturday January 20, 2024 @11:33AM (#39069282)
Years ago I gave up on DuckDuckGo because Google returned better result. Lately I gave DuckDuckGo another shot. It isn't better than before but with the deteriorating quality of the result coming from Google, now that DuckDuckGo's quality apparently isn't any worse than Google.
Re:Google search is losing the fight with SEO spam by thiht on Saturday January 20, 2024 @12:00PM (#39069654)
I've never had a single valid result with DuckDuckGo, every single time I've used it I had to fallback to !g. And years after, I still hate the stupid name and logo.

Kagi was much more impressive than DDG when I tried it. I'll probably give it another shot in the coming month, hoping that I can completely replace Google Search this time!

Re:Google search is losing the fight with SEO spam by caldarons on Saturday January 20, 2024 @12:16PM (#39069885)
I would also add Brave search. It returns decent results and has a very nice way of displaying reddit posts relevant to the search (saves you from having to type reddit at the end of the query :) )
Re:Google search is losing the fight with SEO spam by speedgoose on Saturday January 20, 2024 @11:46AM (#39069460)
From my understanding, Kagi uses Google Search as a source, probably using residential IP proxies, and filter and reorder the results based on a few metrics such as the amount of ads and the domain blocks by the Kagi users.

It’s fine but I went back to DDG/Bing with uBlacklist.

Re:Google search is losing the fight with SEO spam by eddyzh on Saturday January 20, 2024 @12:17PM (#39069896)
What makes you think that kagi uses Google? To my understanding that is utterly incorrect.
Re:Google search is losing the fight with SEO spam by speedgoose on Saturday January 20, 2024 @03:02PM (#39071671)
Re:Google search is losing the fight with SEO spam by carlosjobim on Saturday January 20, 2024 @12:41PM (#39070155)
They use Google and are completely open about it, you can easily confirm this.
Re:Google search is losing the fight with SEO spam by crote on Saturday January 20, 2024 @11:42AM (#39069408)
Personally I'd say DDG is okay. It's not exactly a good search engine (early Google was definitely better), but at least it's not complete crap like 2024 Google.
Re:Google search is losing the fight with SEO spam by bamboozled on Saturday January 20, 2024 @11:17AM (#39069060)
DuckDuckGo no. Kagi, yes.
Re:Google search is losing the fight with SEO spam by dazc on Saturday January 20, 2024 @11:34AM (#39069299)
DDG still often returns results that closely match the exact search term, something Google seems increasingly determined not to?
Re:Google search is losing the fight with SEO spam by bamboozled on Sunday January 21, 2024 @05:58PM (#39083953)
Last I checked DDG is Bing. So if you think DDG is good then I guess you think Bing is good.

I personally don’t.

Re:Google search is losing the fight with SEO spam by 8organicbits on Saturday January 20, 2024 @12:52PM (#39070294)
Can you sell me on Kagi? I took a look at the results for "best laptop" [1] and I'm underwhelmed. I see Reddit at the top (but many people here suggest adding "site:reddit.com" to the search) and most other results are from the same sites (but different order). It's hard to tell which order is better because the query is poorly written. Best laptop for what? I was also surprised to see that it recommends a site that uses affiliate links, its hard to trust those as being unbiased since there's profit motive.

Is there a better example? Re-ordering search results doesn't feel worth paying.

[1] https://kagi.com/search?q=best+laptop&r=us&sh=MuemT1_yBcwqyx...

Re:Google search is losing the fight with SEO spam by bamboozled on Sunday January 21, 2024 @09:35AM (#39078778)
I’m going to say that you do need to adjust to it.

It won’t give you “personalized results” like Google so you might have to adapt to that.

Re:Google search is losing the fight with SEO spam by TexanFeller on Saturday January 20, 2024 @01:50PM (#39070942)
DDG seemed Ok, but I kept going back to Google. For me Kagi is worlds better than both.
Re:Google search is losing the fight with SEO spam by alentred on Saturday January 20, 2024 @02:17PM (#39071215)
I have been using DDG exclusively for more than 10 years now. Because of that I cannot really compare it to other search engines, but this is also to confirm that so far I have been able to find everything I needed.

I know there are some negative reviews here about DDG. I don't know, maybe it is more about getting used to it? I remember that I definitely had to adjust quite a bit, but now I almost always get what I need in the top 5(ish) entries. I'd argue it also got better recently, as I rarely see the SEO-spam as of late.

The only thing I am still not using DDG for is searching for local shops, etc. I use Maps or Tripadvisor. Same goes for some other specific topics - it is sometimes easier to use a dedicated app. Anything else, meaning some generic search on an arbitrary topic - DDG is OK, does its job. Not more, not less.