Re:The Final Nail in Psychiatry's Antidepressant Coffin
by Perenti on Friday January 19, 2024 @11:52PM
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Is "extreme depression" a clinical term? I've heard of Major Depression, Chronic Depression, Clinical Depression.
Re:The Final Nail in Psychiatry's Antidepressant Coffin
by monero-xmr on Friday January 19, 2024 @11:58PM
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I had depression, generalized anxiety, OCD, panic attacks, and myriad issues related to that. I tried years of meditation, diet changes, vitamins and supplements, and exercise routines.
When I finally agreed to try SSRIs after years of resistance, I was essentially cured within 3 weeks after 5 years of debilitating issues.
Re:The Final Nail in Psychiatry's Antidepressant Coffin
by hackerlight on Saturday January 20, 2024 @12:49AM
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> debilitating issues.
Could it be that you had severe depression, if the issues were debilitating? Irving Kirsch's studies have shown that anti-depressents are indeed effective for such cases. Or perhaps it just happened to work for you. RCTs only look at mean effects so they dilute exceptions and outliers.
Anyways, this is a more pro-anti-depressants/pro-psychiatry analysis of Irving Kirsch's research:
https://slatestarcodex.com/2014/07/07/ssris-much-more-than-y...
Re:The Final Nail in Psychiatry's Antidepressant Coffin
by monero-xmr on Saturday January 20, 2024 @01:06AM
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The primary issue was anxiety and OCD. The drug worked, I know it’s hard for you to believe if you didn’t experience it yourself. But it is a night and day difference.
You may have had extreme depression. That's the cohort that anti-depressents actually work for. But they are next to a scam for people with mild depression (or I should say, they do the same thing as placebo according to RCTs), which is where the majority of prescriptions go to. See Irving Kirsch's research on this question.
I'd add that, even if you didn't have extreme depression, I don't doubt that you experienced something that wasn't placebo, because you did take a substance that causes side effects. It is impossible to blind you to the consequences of a side-effect causing drug.