Re:What happened to the US machine tool industry?
by georgeecollins on Friday January 19, 2024 @01:35AM
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MBAs and financially driven management are why the US is such a poor country today. If the US was run like Japan or Germany we would be the wealthiest nation on Earth. First this short shortsightedness cost us the brick industry, then steel, and now machine tools. My children are doomed to be burger flippers due to MBAs.
Re:What happened to the US machine tool industry?
by distances on Friday January 19, 2024 @02:35AM
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> .. US is such a poor country today. If the US was run like Japan or Germany we would be the wealthiest nation on Earth.
US is, by a clear margin, the wealthiest nation isn't it? Certainly more so than Germany or Japan.
Edit: I may have missed some sarcasm there.
Re:What happened to the US machine tool industry?
by science4sail on Friday January 19, 2024 @11:35AM
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I think that it's possible for both of you to be right.
If you work in traditional manufacturing in the Midwest and mostly consume domestic goods, then it's easy to feel like the US is circling the drain.
If you work in IT or finance in a coastal city and mostly consume imported goods, then it's easy to feel like the US is in a golden age.
“Though the conglomerates enjoyed owning machine tool firms in the boom times when profits were high, they quickly became disillusioned during the lean periods when new orders slowed to a trickle. The new owners’ focus on profits meant that they were reluctant to make the long-term investments in R&D or new equipment needed… Conglomerates were often quick to divest their machine tool holdings when the companies began to struggle, resulting in frequent management changes and organizational whiplash…
“In his history of the American machine tool industry, Albert Albrecht states that “the actions of these larger corporations and conglomerates, under the leadership of financial MBA’s, perhaps more than any other factor, contributed to the restructuring and decline of the US machine tool industry at the end of the 20th century”.”
Bingo.
The article points to cycles of high variance in demand for machine tools. Other commenters have pointed the dominance of foreign companies (eg Japan due to their national standardisation on FANUC), globalization and “more cost-effective to import” more generally, and also suggested America is in a “post-machining” stage of manufacturing.
I think all of these claims have merit, but the real underlying cause is most certainly the humble MBA. To wit: they bought themselves into a cyclic industry, replaced the survivor-mindset management, and effectively took these resilient existing businesses and crystallized them into brittle conglomerates while the industry was on the rise of one such cycle, and when they where wholly unprepared for the inevitable down stage of the cycle, they divested, leaving a wasteland behind.