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Re:We migrated our PostgreSQL database with 11 seconds downtime by bboygravity on Thursday January 18, 2024 @06:17PM (#39049338)
Why can't the UK government build there own cloud?

It's just completely insane to me that they would make the gov internet infrastructure completely (geopolitically) dependent on another country AND just literally give all their (citizens') data away AND pay for that "privilege"?!

I mean if the government can't host the government's websites using tech from the government's country, maybe it would be better to just forget about the whole cyberweb thing altogether? Just turn it off?

Re:We migrated our PostgreSQL database with 11 seconds downtime by ris on Thursday January 18, 2024 @06:38PM (#39049543)
I don't think you have any idea just how much it costs to run infrastructure at the reliability levels provided by AWS, and just how much investment it would require to get the ball rolling on this.

A lot of people have a very unrealistic picture of what government budgets are like.

Re:We migrated our PostgreSQL database with 11 seconds downtime by blibble on Thursday January 18, 2024 @06:55PM (#39049732)
> I don't think you have any idea just how much it costs to run infrastructure at the reliability levels provided by AWS

my $12/year VPS does better than us-east-1

Re:We migrated our PostgreSQL database with 11 seconds downtime by hdlothia on Thursday January 18, 2024 @07:40PM (#39050131)
Where do you get a 12 dollar a year vps. Hetzner charges me 4 bucks a month and it feels like a steal
Re:We migrated our PostgreSQL database with 11 seconds downtime by blibble on Thursday January 18, 2024 @08:09PM (#39050367)
Re:We migrated our PostgreSQL database with 11 seconds downtime by bboygravity on Friday January 19, 2024 @10:03PM (#39064256)
I get that it costs a lot.

My point is that NOT hosting it yourself (as a government) costs WAY more in the long run. See my points above.

The same goes for companies in Europe who literally host their trade-secrets (designs, sales, the entire company) on US-servers (OneDrive, Google Drive, etc). The US is the home of their competitors. Who cares about infrastructure costs if you're PAYING to give your trade secrets away to your competitor(s)?!

Re:We migrated our PostgreSQL database with 11 seconds downtime by robertlagrant on Thursday January 18, 2024 @06:26PM (#39049412)
They'd still be outsourcing to a firm to do this. They wouldn't hire a load of people to do it in-house. See also Fujitsu in the recently-popular Horizon scandal, or the NHS for IT debacle[0].

[0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NHS_Connecting_for_Health

Re:We migrated our PostgreSQL database with 11 seconds downtime by vdaea on Thursday January 18, 2024 @06:28PM (#39049436)
Why should they build their own cloud, seeing that costs more money?
Re:We migrated our PostgreSQL database with 11 seconds downtime by willsmith72 on Thursday January 18, 2024 @06:36PM (#39049511)
you want every government to build their own cloud? what in the world? the whole world is interlinked, should they also manufacture their own government laptops in the UK?
Re:We migrated our PostgreSQL database with 11 seconds downtime by shagmin on Thursday January 18, 2024 @11:11PM (#39051473)
I've always wondered how beholden the world is to Microsoft. I was once surprised to learn the US military (and probably virtually all others) don't have their own OS to avoid being tied to a particular company.
Re:We migrated our PostgreSQL database with 11 seconds downtime by 0xbadcafebee on Friday January 19, 2024 @01:32AM (#39052210)
Why can't the UK government build their own cars? Their own boots? Their own pens, paper? How wasteful and pathetic that they wouldn't make all those things themselves. If it's possible to do it yourself, by golly, you should do it yourself, and there's absolutely no reason in the entire world to purchase those things from someone else instead.
Re:We migrated our PostgreSQL database with 11 seconds downtime by bboygravity on Sunday January 28, 2024 @11:45PM (#39172785)
By that reasoning: why not just outsource the entire UK government to some low income countries while you're at it?

I mean I'm sure Xi or any other president would be happy to govern the UK in exchange for a small fee? Much more cost effective!

I'm sure the Chinese would also be more than happy to build the UK's roads and (government) buildings at a great discount.

You still don't see my point? We're talking essential infrastructure and Geo-politically highly sensitive data.

Re:We migrated our PostgreSQL database with 11 seconds downtime by kakoni on Friday January 19, 2024 @04:58AM (#39053617)
You know that UK's National Health Service did a deal with Palantir for "federated data platform"?