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Re:Is Google Getting Worse? A Longitudinal Investigation of ... by miyuru on Tuesday January 16, 2024 @12:27PM (#39015991)
I recently caught myself that I unconsciously retry my google searches by adding more keywords. I also noticed that small sites, blogs, forums are gone from google searches.

Now I am using 3 search engines.

Bing for Normal searches. Google for local(country) searches. Yandex for small sites, blogs, forums.

Re:Is Google Getting Worse? A Longitudinal Investigation of ... by pants2 on Tuesday January 16, 2024 @12:51PM (#39016307)
BTW, Kagi has a dedicated "Forums" toggle at the top of every search result page. It's very useful. Google used to have this but removed it.
Re:Is Google Getting Worse? A Longitudinal Investigation of ... by chikitabanana on Tuesday January 16, 2024 @03:21PM (#39018580)
I've found adding "forum" to my query on Google works decently
Re:Is Google Getting Worse? A Longitudinal Investigation of ... by miyuru on Wednesday January 17, 2024 @04:12AM (#39025287)
Unfortunately Kagi seems to have a US based pricing. I will ask them if they plan to add region based pricing.

Edit: They aren't likely to add it. https://kagifeedback.org/d/687-implement-regional-pricing

Re:Is Google Getting Worse? A Longitudinal Investigation of ... by kiwijamo on Tuesday January 16, 2024 @03:54PM (#39018988)
Have you tried DuckDuckGo? I find it fantastic -- it does both general queries and local country queries well. Anytime I go back to Google (e.g. when I'm setting up a new computer) I am surprised that anyone still uses Google -- the result I am looking for is almost always half way down the page on Google yet it is #1 or nearby on DuckDuckGo. Apparently it's based on Bing's index but with their own tech on top.
Re:Is Google Getting Worse? A Longitudinal Investigation of ... by talldatethrow on Tuesday January 16, 2024 @03:14PM (#39018485)
I simply add the word forum to most of my Google searches.
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Re:Is Google Getting Worse? A Longitudinal Investigation of ... by jayknight on Tuesday January 16, 2024 @12:56PM (#39016379)
DDG uses bing search behind the scenes. In terms of the quality of the results, those two should be the same. Bing has more "related" links sprinkled in with its results, but the main results are the same between the two.
Re:Is Google Getting Worse? A Longitudinal Investigation of ... by itslennysfault on Tuesday January 16, 2024 @01:13PM (#39016547)
It is accurate to say DDG uses bing behind the scenes, but that is not its only source. They have their own crawler (DuckDuckBot[1]), and pull results from many sources[2].

1. https://duckduckgo.com/duckduckgo-help-pages/results/duckduc...

2. https://duckduckgo.com/duckduckgo-help-pages/results/sources...

Re:Is Google Getting Worse? A Longitudinal Investigation of ... by Kiro on Tuesday January 16, 2024 @03:13PM (#39018461)
Their own crawler is only used for widgets and other fluff.
Re:Is Google Getting Worse? A Longitudinal Investigation of ... by n3storm on Tuesday January 16, 2024 @12:51PM (#39016312)
Every month I fallback less to Google, from DDG. Google is becoming ABetterSearchForAmazon.
Re:Is Google Getting Worse? A Longitudinal Investigation of ... by le-mark on Tuesday January 16, 2024 @12:57PM (#39016388)
Just now I was searching for flares,and after 5 attempts with different keywords I could not even get the Wikipedia page, just ads and blog spam for boating flares. Went to ddg and got informative links and the wiki entry first try.

Google is garbage, has been for quite some time.

Re:Is Google Getting Worse? A Longitudinal Investigation of ... by mcbishop on Tuesday January 16, 2024 @01:01PM (#39016442)
And ABetterSearchForReddit. That's about it for me, besides local searches.
Re:Is Google Getting Worse? A Longitudinal Investigation of ... by matthewbauer on Tuesday January 16, 2024 @01:19PM (#39016621)
I've found DuckDuckGo to have more spam than Google in a lot of cases.
Re:Is Google Getting Worse? A Longitudinal Investigation of ... by n3storm on Wednesday January 17, 2024 @03:23AM (#39024880)
How so? what scope are your searches?
Re:Is Google Getting Worse? A Longitudinal Investigation of ... by mock-possum on Tuesday January 16, 2024 @01:24PM (#39016684)
Probably because DDG is shit compared to google. It consistently misinterprets context, it’s shy about domain-specific searches, especially involving pornography, and struggles to ‘correct’ poorly-written search strings.

It doesn’t come with the baggage that google does, ovviously, but let’s not pretend it’s any kind of real competition in terms of functionality.

Re:Is Google Getting Worse? A Longitudinal Investigation of ... by puika on Tuesday January 16, 2024 @03:18PM (#39018542)
Funny how I get the opposite result with google, which ignores my quoted text and tries to feed me whatever it believes I want to look up, instead of the exact matches. Especially annoying for code searches.