Re:I Found David Lynch's Lost 'Dune II' Script
by willis936 on Saturday January 13, 2024 @10:46AM
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The changes to Kynes and Hawat removed subplots to focus on the primary plot. They don't even mention Paul's mentat training.
I feel that removing the Arabic names from Fremen is to make it palatable for modern audiences. Herbert did respect Arabic cultures and (in my opinion) did not have an insulting representation of them. It is still a caricature of a people made by someone who is not of that people. We do give up some context, but we also avoid insult in our now-global world. I don't think there was any winning move here, but I think they gave it thought and made a careful decision.
Re:I Found David Lynch's Lost 'Dune II' Script
by int_19h on Saturday January 13, 2024 @11:23AM
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With respect to the portrayal of Fremen in Dune, it is a very specific trope that is being portrayed; here's a detailed analysis of that trope:
https://acoup.blog/2020/01/17/collections-the-fremen-mirage-...
Re:I Found David Lynch's Lost 'Dune II' Script
by righthand on Saturday January 13, 2024 @11:21AM
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No I think they took the easy way out because “modern” aka 1st world audiences are afraid of the word jihad. It wouldn’t be such a big deal if people weren’t proclaiming it to be an accurate depiction of the book when it clearly overwrites several big pieces of plot in favor of modern anxieties.
Re:I Found David Lynch's Lost 'Dune II' Script
by willis936 on Saturday January 13, 2024 @12:15PM
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There are a lot more Arabic aspects of the Fremen in the books that didn't make it into the movie. They could have left those and removed the word Jihad but they went all the way.
I completely disagree, it does a few major plot points decently but the gender swap of Liet Kynes completely erases the point of that character as a parallel to Paul’s journey in relation to his determined destiny as outlined by the people before him. It completely wipes away any difference between the two invading armies as well they both come off as generic evil villains where in the book they have a purposeful lavishness and guadiness. Not to mention the entire obvious white washing of the entire jihad and Fremen who are clearly based off of Middle Eastern peoples.