Re:Apple hiring compiler developers for improving Swift / C+...
by swah on Saturday January 13, 2024 @05:11AM
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Article says "The base pay range for this role is between $138,900 and $256,500, and your base pay will depend on your skills, qualifications, experience, and location."
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Re:Apple hiring compiler developers for improving Swift / C+...
by throwaway_iusa on Saturday January 13, 2024 @05:50AM
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Thanks, but I wasn't asking about base pay, that's pretty much fixed depending on which level you end up hired at. I was asking about Total Comp given this is a very niche space and serious talent with experience usually commands significant TC and I was wondering how far Apple goes to attract such talent (especially given the current state of the industry, with layoffs and all).
Re:Apple hiring compiler developers for improving Swift / C+...
by sgerenser on Saturday January 13, 2024 @06:05AM
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I doubt they’re offering any more for this position than other software engineering positions at a similar level. You can roughly double the base salary number to get TC including stock and bonus. If Chris Lattner decides he wants to return to Apple they might make an exception though.
Re:Apple hiring compiler developers for improving Swift / C+...
by astrange on Saturday January 13, 2024 @07:47AM
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The TC is just as tied to the level as the salary is. If someone wants to pay you much more, they'd make you a different level.
Re:Apple hiring compiler developers for improving Swift / C+...
by saagarjha on Saturday January 13, 2024 @06:24AM
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At this level it’s probably closer to 1.5x.
Re:Apple hiring compiler developers for improving Swift / C+...
by saagarjha on Saturday January 13, 2024 @06:23AM
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Apple doesn’t usually offer significant extra compensation for specialized roles like these.
Re:Apple hiring compiler developers for improving Swift / C+...
by aworks on Saturday January 13, 2024 @02:01PM
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I hired compiler engineers among others during my career at multiple companies in Silicon Valley. I usually managed to get extra compensation but not always. It's a small pool of developers. Eventually, we hired mostly in other countries.
Re:Apple hiring compiler developers for improving Swift / C+...
by d3w4s9 on Saturday January 13, 2024 @07:14AM
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Go to levels.fyi, search Apple, then look for salary that is for a similar position and has a similar base. That's a starting point.
The base does have a quite wide range, I assume that's the range for a few different levels. Still, you are roughly looking at a TC starting from $230k all the way up to $400k and more.
"Niche space and serious talent" doesn't necessarily translate to higher levels or salary in a company. It all comes down to how much resource an organization has. (I wish my employer actually understood how "valuable" I am and that I achieved things very few in my company could do, but I am not betting on that or the company.)
All other comments here are useless and a waste of your time.
Re:Apple hiring compiler developers for improving Swift / C+...
by lotsofpulp on Saturday January 13, 2024 @07:35AM
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Serious talent (i.e. desired by many buyers) translates to higher pay, especially for buyers with huge amounts of resources like Apple.
If the talent is too niche, however, the buyer might lowball the seller because they predict the seller will not be able to find a better offer.
Re:Apple hiring compiler developers for improving Swift / C+...
by geodel on Saturday January 13, 2024 @11:26AM
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Huge amount of resource can also mean they can wait for talent for right price. They'd rather have 20 engineers for right price than 4 superstars demanding 40% increase every year else threatening to leave.