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Re:Phi-2: Self-Extend Boosts Performance, Extends Context to... by behnamoh on Friday January 12, 2024 @11:06AM (#38969713)
Despite what people say about ϕ-2, I never liked its responses. It clearly lacks depth and consistency.
Re:Phi-2: Self-Extend Boosts Performance, Extends Context to... by eightysixfour on Friday January 12, 2024 @11:33AM (#38970133)
I feel like Phi-2 is all about the context of the fact that it is a <3b parameter model. It is incredible in that context, it isn't incredible in others.
Re:Phi-2: Self-Extend Boosts Performance, Extends Context to... by make3 on Friday January 12, 2024 @12:02PM (#38970654)
it's definitely what it's about. it's insanely strong for its size
Re:Phi-2: Self-Extend Boosts Performance, Extends Context to... by yufeng66 on Friday January 12, 2024 @01:17PM (#38971749)
Phi-2 basically demonstrated that you don't need a very large model to figure out language. It not very smart but speaks perfect English. it's not obvious the best way to gain IQ is to have a larger language model. some other structure might be needed.
Re:Phi-2: Self-Extend Boosts Performance, Extends Context to... by behnamoh on Friday January 12, 2024 @01:52PM (#38972248)
But isn't that something that even smaller GPT-2 models demonstrated already?
Re:Phi-2: Self-Extend Boosts Performance, Extends Context to... by erichocean on Saturday January 13, 2024 @01:25AM (#38977781)
No, and this is covered in the various Phi papers, as well as TinyStories [0]:

> Models with around 125M parameters such as GPT-Neo (small) or GPT-2 (small) can rarely generate coherent and consistent English text beyond a few words even after extensive training.

[0] https://arxiv.org/abs/2305.07759

Re:Phi-2: Self-Extend Boosts Performance, Extends Context to... by visarga on Friday January 12, 2024 @11:53AM (#38970497)
maybe it's useful for fine-tuning jobs, not for free prompting

I have had a similar bad experience with it trying to prompt it

Re:Phi-2: Self-Extend Boosts Performance, Extends Context to... by m3kw9 on Friday January 12, 2024 @12:31PM (#38971091)
It’s a model for low rM usage 4gigs? I heard it would work well for RAG to speak to your docs, instead of relying purely on its parameters to answer.
Re:Phi-2: Self-Extend Boosts Performance, Extends Context to... by coder543 on Friday January 12, 2024 @01:42PM (#38972101)
Did you try Dolphin Phi-2? The Dolphin fine-tune seems better to me in this case.