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Re:FAA orders grounding of more than 170 Boeing 737 Max 9s by Roark66 on Sunday January 07, 2024 @03:42AM (#38899627)
And that is why I think it is absolutely, mind bogglingly bonkers that Tesla is currently using "drive by wire" in a mass production car when this technology is not common in aviation at all. Only the huge airliners that benefit from extremely expensive maintenance schedules use full "fly by wire".
Re:FAA orders grounding of more than 170 Boeing 737 Max 9s by TylerE on Sunday January 07, 2024 @04:19AM (#38899772)
Every Airbus built in the last 40 years is fly by wire.
Re:FAA orders grounding of more than 170 Boeing 737 Max 9s by user_7832 on Sunday January 07, 2024 @07:29AM (#38900691)
Drive by wire isn’t the problem. You already have tons of electronics in a 10 year old car, from the ECU to ABS. However, there are relevant important standards and certifications in aviation, and I’m not sure if vehicular certs are as strict.
Re:FAA orders grounding of more than 170 Boeing 737 Max 9s by Roark66 on Thursday January 11, 2024 @02:23AM (#38948896)
>Drive by wire isn’t the problem

Yes it will be when you loose all power while going 80mph on a motorway because rodents ate the wiring 10 years later.

"tons of electronics" in modern cars is not required for the most basic functionality such as steering and braking. Yes, you loose power steering and power breaking if it goes off, but you can still drive (unless maybe you've never driven without it and it surprises you during a high speed takeover manouver etc).

This "drive by wire" takes away the most essential security feature present in "all" cars up to now. A direct mechanical connection between the steering wheel and the wheels. Even manufacturers of small airplanes (like "executive" 8 seater jets) say "no way" to this tech unless it controls an auxiliary control surface.

Putting it in a production car that will get crashes, it will corrode (yes copper wiring and insulation corrodes too), it will get attacked by rodents and it might get driven in 50 years from now as a "classic" is sheer, unabridged, stupidity of the highest order.

Re:FAA orders grounding of more than 170 Boeing 737 Max 9s by user_7832 on Friday January 19, 2024 @06:42PM (#39062980)
That’s a valid point, I wonder how aircrafts avoid these issues.
Re:FAA orders grounding of more than 170 Boeing 737 Max 9s by mattmaroon on Sunday January 07, 2024 @09:58AM (#38901702)
It’s only not in small planes, and then because of cost.
Re:FAA orders grounding of more than 170 Boeing 737 Max 9s by Roark66 on Thursday January 11, 2024 @02:29AM (#38948936)
No, not just cost. Take a cessna columbus. An 8 seater executive jet. They chose to put fly by wire only on flaps. Is it because of cost? I doubt it. Pilots like "fly by wire" and people would gladly pay a 100k more for it on a $27 million aircraft. Even back in 2009 when it was still available.