Re:"No inventions; no innovations" A History of US Steel
by Fatnino on Friday December 29, 2023 @02:50PM
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How do you spend away a bunch of NIMBYs? Their whole thing is that they refuse to cooperate with that.
Bombs would solve that, but come with a host of other... issues.
Re:"No inventions; no innovations" A History of US Steel
by pstuart on Friday December 29, 2023 @03:22PM
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Eminent domain is the best we've got.
Re:"No inventions; no innovations" A History of US Steel
by mitthrowaway2 on Friday December 29, 2023 @02:56PM
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The OP's contention was that Japan and Germany had an advantage due to their steel industry being bombed, which is apparently easier than upgrading legacy production facilities that haven't been blown to rubble.
Re:"No inventions; no innovations" A History of US Steel
by sokoloff on Friday December 29, 2023 @03:11PM
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It’s often easier to rebuild rubble using other people’s money than to modernize in-place using your own.
Beyond just the “whose money is buying?” is that the latter costs you current production while the bombed-out scenario has no current production to forego.
Re:"No inventions; no innovations" A History of US Steel
by danans on Friday December 29, 2023 @08:00PM
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> The marshalling of public resources.
Indeed, something like a Marshall Plan!
> You can replicate that without the bombs with a public-spending initiative.
You can, but the challenge isn't in the implementation as much as gathering the political will to do that. Since the New Deal and WWII, that has rarely happened in the US, and only recently: The ACA, the 2021 Infrastructure Bill and the Inflation Reduction Act. All of those barely had enough support to pass and both are at risk if there is a significant shift in power.
Plenty of places are bombed into oblivion. What makes the rebirth is the rebuilding. The marshalling of public resources. You can replicate that without the bombs with a public-spending initiative.