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Re:Generation Junk by crooked-v on Wednesday December 27, 2023 @10:28PM (#38789659)
For me, I think the prime comparison is the KitchenAid stand mixer. You can get a new one that's functionally identical to the classic models that have lasted forever... and it'll run you at least $350 even during a major sale.
Re:Generation Junk by upon_drumhead on Wednesday December 27, 2023 @10:30PM (#38789675)
Our few year old kitchen aid has been a nightmare of broken plastic internal parts. I will weep when my mother passes, but I will be taking her mixer and ditching mine.
Re:Generation Junk by wredcoll on Wednesday December 27, 2023 @10:33PM (#38789698)
The irony of course is that they deliberately make some parts out of plastic so they break before the rest of the machine does when you're misstreating it.
Re:Generation Junk by paleface on Wednesday December 27, 2023 @11:02PM (#38789895)
I’ve had the same experience, with paper shredders - particularly the Fellowes brand, in the UK - which all have a nylon (possibly some other plastic) cog, somewhere to overheat, then break.
Re:Generation Junk by c22 on Wednesday December 27, 2023 @11:27PM (#38790045)
In this case, I think it's so they break before the bones in your hand do.
Re:Generation Junk by samtho on Wednesday December 27, 2023 @11:19PM (#38790000)
They’re built out of plastic because it’s $0.02 cheaper than a metal part and 99.9% of them last through the warranty period.

It’s not deliberate that they make stuff that fails, they build stuff that lasts only as long as it needs.

Re:Generation Junk by slavik81 on Wednesday December 27, 2023 @11:56PM (#38790210)
There's a single nylon gear. The rest are made of metal. They've been using a sacrificial worm gear since the 1960s.

KitchenAid switched to all-metal gears on their high-end models fairly recently. In the past, all models had a nylon gear, but the new high-end mixers use electronics to protect the motor.

Re:Generation Junk by fullstop on Wednesday December 27, 2023 @10:32PM (#38789691)
Some plastic parts are intentional / sacrificial. Even so, the old mixers were definitely built to last.
Re:Generation Junk by Gigachad on Wednesday December 27, 2023 @10:59PM (#38789877)
Plastic gears have lower friction and don't require greasing. They aren't really bad on their own. The problem is you can't find replacement parts when they break.
Re:Generation Junk by pierat on Thursday December 28, 2023 @12:19AM (#38790313)
Get a FDM printer (filament), and get FreeCAD.

You'll need digital calipers as well. You can cheap out for $20, or get Mitutoyo's for $200.

A scanner's also nice in scanning a geometry thats flat, but not required.

Just with a 3d printer and a meager ket, you can replace most current commercial crap in a few hours, and have the replacement as a file you can call on any time.

That's how I'm handling this "throw away culture" shit. I'm replicating what I need and throwing away the actual broken bits.

Reduce, Reuse, REPAIR, Recycle. (Hint: the manufacturers want you to forget the 4th, hidden R.)

Re:Generation Junk by slavik81 on Thursday December 28, 2023 @12:57AM (#38790512)
Re:Generation Junk by pixl97 on Thursday December 28, 2023 @01:00AM (#38790535)
If these things break all the time why isn't someone producing them and selling them?
Re:Generation Junk by Gigachad on Thursday December 28, 2023 @03:59AM (#38791473)
Because they are all custom sizes. And they don't break often. It's like 10 years after purchase where there aren't too many other owners looking for parts and the original company doesn't support it anymore.
Re:Generation Junk by nunez on Thursday December 28, 2023 @10:56AM (#38794683)
Not all KitchenAid stand mixers are made the same: https://old.reddit.com/r/Cooking/comments/a6510b/wife_loves_...

TL;DR: The Pro Line is what you want. These have higher-wattage motors and are made with all-stainless steel. This is important if you mix heavy things like doughs or meats frequently, as these materials tend to stress and shear plastic more easily.

Re:Generation Junk by pete762 on Wednesday December 27, 2023 @11:05PM (#38789909)
My mom has a Kitchen Aid kettle. That shitty thing breaks all the time forcing my dad to replace some parts of the circuit. (And it's not the users' fault, it's a damn kettle, there's not much you can do wrong except maybe starting it empty which they don't do)
Re:Generation Junk by LeafItAlone on Wednesday December 27, 2023 @11:55PM (#38790192)
> breaks all the time forcing my dad to replace some parts of the circuit

> there's not much you can do wrong

That’s right, which means that the repair jobs are probably failing or incorrect…

Re:Generation Junk by Kon-Peki on Wednesday December 27, 2023 @10:59PM (#38789879)
KitchenAid sells 4 or 5 different versions of their stand mixers with retail prices ranging from $350 - $1000+. There is a reason for the price difference.
Re:Generation Junk by nunez on Thursday December 28, 2023 @11:04AM (#38794787)
Re:Generation Junk by scantron4 on Wednesday December 27, 2023 @10:31PM (#38789689)
Nope. My mixer, which I put off buying for years, came out of the box much worse than my mothers 50 year old model.

It doesn't actually move slowly at the stir speeds and sounds atrocious.