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Re:Can Flow Batteries Finally Beat Lithium? by trabant00 on Monday December 25, 2023 @03:08AM (#38760768)
Except that it does not take 5 minutes to fill up, you can ask the gas station attendant to do it for you, or you can simply let the pump run and do whatever you would do in that 20 minutes an electric charges. There is no attention needed on the pump while it is running.

But I guess the long time that electric charging takes is usefull. You can spend it on mental gymnastics that being forced to stop more often and for longer is somehow better.

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Re:Can Flow Batteries Finally Beat Lithium? by messe on Monday December 25, 2023 @04:27AM (#38761125)
> you can ask the gas station attendant to do it for you

Where in the world is that still a thing?

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Re:Can Flow Batteries Finally Beat Lithium? by richardwardza on Monday December 25, 2023 @06:23AM (#38761720)
Every petrol station in South Africa.
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Re:Can Flow Batteries Finally Beat Lithium? by Dalewyn on Monday December 25, 2023 @04:30AM (#38761144)
At least Japan and significant parts of the US, speaking from what I personally know.

Oregon just this year finally changed its state-wide mandate that all pumps at a station be Full Service to half Full Service and half Self Serve. Yes, it's mandatory for stations to have Full Service pumps in Oregon.

Further reading:

https://www.oregon.gov/osfm/pages/self-serve-fueling.aspx

https://www.oregonlive.com/commuting/2023/08/self-serve-gaso...

https://oregoncapitalchronicle.com/2023/03/20/house-passes-b...

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Re:Can Flow Batteries Finally Beat Lithium? by devilbunny on Monday December 25, 2023 @08:20AM (#38762365)
It's mandatory in Oregon and New Jersey. Which are not exactly Wyoming, in terms of population, but they are just two states.

Outside of that, there's a full-service station down the street from me, but it's about 30 cents per gallon more to get full service (though it is full service and they will check your oil, tire pressure, coolant, windshield washer fluid, etc., and refill the washer fluid and air up tires). It's the only one I know of at all outside of those two states (though of course there must be others still out there).

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Re:Can Flow Batteries Finally Beat Lithium? by SV_BubbleTime on Monday December 25, 2023 @03:10PM (#38765677)
Oregon has removed that.
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Re:Can Flow Batteries Finally Beat Lithium? by Dalewyn on Monday December 25, 2023 @03:28PM (#38765816)
Oregon gas stations may reduce their Full Service pumps down to half of all pumps and leave the rest as Self Serve, this is not a requirement. Maintaining at least half of all pumps as Full Service is a requirement.
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Re:Can Flow Batteries Finally Beat Lithium? by SV_BubbleTime on Tuesday December 26, 2023 @06:36PM (#38777272)
> It's mandatory in Oregon

> Oregon has removed that.

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