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Re:Rumble Turns Off Access in Brazil Because of Government's... by tibbydudeza on Sunday December 24, 2023 @03:32AM (#38752126)
A court order would have forced all Brazilian ISP's or the international peering operators on Brazilian soil to block it - Rumble simply pre-empted it to make drama around free speech.
Re:Rumble Turns Off Access in Brazil Because of Government's... by claytongulick on Sunday December 24, 2023 @10:14AM (#38753954)
> to make drama around free speech.

I remember when free speech was an ideal that was universally recognized as crucial to a functioning democracy.

"Making drama" by refusing to participate in a censorship program strikes me as admirable.

What a strange world we live in where so many people sneer at the concept of free exchange and the marketplace of ideas, and those that seek to support it.

Re:Rumble Turns Off Access in Brazil Because of Government's... by midasuni on Sunday December 24, 2023 @12:21PM (#38754929)
I don’t. I remember when every country and society have different views on freedom of speech and where the limits are.
Re:Rumble Turns Off Access in Brazil Because of Government's... by tibbydudeza on Sunday December 24, 2023 @02:29PM (#38756010)
US concepts are NOT universal - in South Africa we have strong laws against racist hate speech - call somebody a local slur for black person (k word) here you going to get prosecuted and fined and perhaps even jail never mind being dragged on social media.

We call it "crimen injuria" in our laws - right to dignity is defined in our constitution and frankly this has NO place in our society considering our history.

Re:Rumble Turns Off Access in Brazil Because of Government's... by claytongulick on Sunday December 24, 2023 @06:07PM (#38757911)
You don't remember when free speech was an ideal for democratic societies?

You must live in a very different world than I do.

"the end of law is not to abolish or restrain, but to preserve and enlarge freedom. For in all the states of created beings, capable of laws, where there is no law there is no freedom." - John Locke

Re:Rumble Turns Off Access in Brazil Because of Government's... by midasuni on Monday December 25, 2023 @01:48AM (#38760410)
Certainly never been in the US. The US decides holocaust denial is fine, but saying “I’m going to kill the President” isn’t. Other countries have different views. The US is happy to arrest people who work for companies who disagree with US limits on free speech who happen to visit the US (Skylarov), and even to use its economic might to get other countries to uphold its anti free speech agenda (Kim Dot Com)
Re:Rumble Turns Off Access in Brazil Because of Government's... by claytongulick on Monday December 25, 2023 @01:51PM (#38765023)
So, because we fail to meet it, the ideal isn't valuable?
Re:Rumble Turns Off Access in Brazil Because of Government's... by tibbydudeza on Wednesday December 27, 2023 @07:22AM (#38781297)
Not absolute free speech - there are limits.