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Re:The Rise of the Forever Renters by whateveracct on Saturday December 23, 2023 @03:50PM (#38748096)
Maybe in the market this very moment it's tougher to buy, but I bought in 2020 and my mortgage + other expenses pretty much match what I was paying in an expensive city (Seattle). I didn't buy in Seattle but it's an easy drive away.

And my house is 3k sqft vs the 800 I had in the city. And that space is put to work: Proper office, guestroom, gym room, much larger and nicer kitchen (which in turn saves me even more money because I cook more), charcoal grill outside, room for more guitars and drums, proper dining room for hosting family gatherings, a porch I can sit and smoke on. The list goes on.

Grocery store is walkable and the neighborhood is nice to walk in for exercise. City experiences are 20-40 min away depending on which city I wanna hang out in. I guess I have to have a car but I had one in the city anyways since I liked to drive to destinations around Seattle. It's an old Civic still kicking so it's pretty cheap all told.

For the same money per month, locked in for years. If I renewed my lease in 2020 during the pandemic instead of owning, I'd be materially less well off.

Re:The Rise of the Forever Renters by blackguardx on Saturday December 23, 2023 @04:02PM (#38748201)
What city do you live in now? When I lived in Seattle, most of the suburbs with 3k sqft houses weren't that walkable.
Re:The Rise of the Forever Renters by whateveracct on Sunday December 24, 2023 @01:43AM (#38751663)
I moved to a Tacoma suburb instead. Tacoma is a very cool city in its own right! It's my main city I do stuff in.
Re:The Rise of the Forever Renters by daveguy on Saturday December 23, 2023 @04:26PM (#38748387)
It must be nice to get a mortgage at ~3.1% or less.

Do you realize that you would be paying over 50% more per month for that same mortgage today?

Would you still consider that a super good deal that you can't imagine anyone not taking?

Rate lock-in isn't that great with a high interest rate, because you are going to need to pay thousands to refinance.

I get where you're coming from, but it's a different analysis today than it was 3 years ago.

Re:The Rise of the Forever Renters by whateveracct on Sunday December 24, 2023 @01:44AM (#38751669)
Oh yeah right now - it's time to rent. If this was the economy in summer of 2020, I would've probably kept rolling with my apartment (which I did like a lot) while continuing to stash away liquid savings for when buying a house became a good deal again.

But this article is about "Forever" Renters. I highly doubt buying a house will never be worth it if you follow the above path.