Re:The military transformation of medieval Europe: Stirrups ...
by philwelch on Friday December 22, 2023 @10:12AM
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This pattern far predates Genghis Khan. In the historical record alone, there are multiple waves of steppe nomads conquering agricultural civilizations including the Huns and multiple Turkic cultures. Prior to written history, the ancient cultures of the Pontic Steppe spent centuries breeding the modern horse; these are the same people who probably spoke the Proto-Indo-European language and included the male line ancestors of virtually all European populations.
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Re:The military transformation of medieval Europe: Stirrups ...
by NewsyHacker on Friday December 22, 2023 @03:36PM
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The invention, and still more the dissemination, of the stirrup is closer in time to Genghis Khan than to the early Indo-European cultures, though.
Re:The military transformation of medieval Europe: Stirrups ...
by philwelch on Friday December 22, 2023 @06:02PM
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Sure; mounted warfare existed for centuries before stirrups were invented. Actually it's not entirely clear whether the Proto-Indo-Europeans actually rode the horses or just used them to pull chariots.
Re:The military transformation of medieval Europe: Stirrups ...
by mcv on Friday December 22, 2023 @08:05PM
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Did mounted warfare exist before stirrups? The bronze age was all about chariots, and had little or no mounted combat. I'm not sure if that was because of a lack of stirrups or because horses simply hadn't been bred large enough.
The big question is of course whether Alexander the Great's famous hetairoi used stirrups or not. According to [0] they're considered among the first shock cavalry, and yet I can't find anything about them using stirrups, so clearly mounted combat, including shock cavalry, must have been possible without them.