Re:Tolkien Estate Wins Court Order to Destroy Fan's 'Lord of...
by squidbeak on Thursday December 21, 2023 @12:28PM
(#38723557)
It's literary merits are irrelevant. This is someone's work, and they are being denied the right to even keep a backup up in the attic. If one party's control over a creative work can be extended to strip another party of any control over his, something's fucked up with the system.
Re:Tolkien Estate Wins Court Order to Destroy Fan's 'Lord of...
by sugarkjube on Thursday December 21, 2023 @12:27PM
(#38723544)
This is hilarious. So the judge forbids him to further distribute the book he wrote, but now publishes and distributes it on his behalf. For free. Go figure. Can the court now be considered guilty of violating copyright ?
Re:Tolkien Estate Wins Court Order to Destroy Fan's 'Lord of...
by ceejayoz on Thursday December 21, 2023 @12:30PM
(#38723598)
> Can the court now be considered guilty of violating copyright ?
Re:Tolkien Estate Wins Court Order to Destroy Fan's 'Lord of...
by autoexec on Thursday December 21, 2023 @10:57PM
(#38730787)
I have a copy now, and I'd never even heard of this fanfic before today. Not sure that the system is working as intended...
Re:Tolkien Estate Wins Court Order to Destroy Fan's 'Lord of...
by sickofparadox on Thursday December 21, 2023 @11:48AM
(#38722924)
Even if it was horribly offensive and morally repugnant, I would still say that the court should let private copies exist.
Re:Tolkien Estate Wins Court Order to Destroy Fan's 'Lord of...
by ceejayoz on Thursday December 21, 2023 @11:54AM
(#38723013)
The court is hosting one in the link above.
Re:Tolkien Estate Wins Court Order to Destroy Fan's 'Lord of...
by whatshisface on Thursday December 21, 2023 @11:57AM
(#38723063)
Why are they bothering to ask anyone to destroy it?
Re:Tolkien Estate Wins Court Order to Destroy Fan's 'Lord of...
by ceejayoz on Thursday December 21, 2023 @11:59AM
(#38723084)
Because he egregiously misbehaved with his, and this is the resulting punishment.
You and I can keep whatever copies we may have.
Re:Tolkien Estate Wins Court Order to Destroy Fan's 'Lord of...
by ClumsyPilot on Thursday December 21, 2023 @12:26PM
(#38723518)
> Because he egregiously misbehaved with his, and this is the resulting punishment
This is like some new form of justice, where, if you hit someone with a hammer we punish the hammer?
Re:Tolkien Estate Wins Court Order to Destroy Fan's 'Lord of...
by ceejayoz on Thursday December 21, 2023 @12:29PM
(#38723575)
No; we take away your hammers. It's quite an old approach.
Re:Tolkien Estate Wins Court Order to Destroy Fan's 'Lord of...
by ClumsyPilot on Thursday December 21, 2023 @12:48PM
(#38723865)
Taking away the hammer would placing the fanwork into public domain.
Here, we are specifically destroying the hammer as a punishment.
Re:Tolkien Estate Wins Court Order to Destroy Fan's 'Lord of...
by ceejayoz on Thursday December 21, 2023 @12:53PM
(#38723946)
It woudl be odd for the court to resolve a copyright infringement case by more copyright infringement. It's not theirs to put in the public domain; it's the Tolkien estate's IP.
Re:Tolkien Estate Wins Court Order to Destroy Fan's 'Lord of...
by runeofdoom on Friday December 22, 2023 @04:24PM
(#38738830)
It is, for all practical purposes. The court posted the whole thing in an official document.
Re:Tolkien Estate Wins Court Order to Destroy Fan's 'Lord of...
by drewcoo on Thursday December 21, 2023 @01:04PM
(#38724104)
It seems like you're saying "IP claims" are a hammer.
So, yes, I favor destroying all hammers.
Re:Tolkien Estate Wins Court Order to Destroy Fan's 'Lord of...
by Cthulhu_ on Thursday December 21, 2023 @02:08PM
(#38725211)
Because he self-published and had some printed; he is able to have those recalled and destroyed still.
Re:Tolkien Estate Wins Court Order to Destroy Fan's 'Lord of...
by tuscen on Thursday December 21, 2023 @11:45AM
(#38722873)
It really should not matter. It shouldn't even be allowed to ban non-commercial fan fiction.
Re:Tolkien Estate Wins Court Order to Destroy Fan's 'Lord of...
by duskwuff on Thursday December 21, 2023 @12:12PM
(#38723283)
This wasn't non-commercial. The author was selling his book, and was trying to extort Amazon into paying licensing fees for it as well.
Re:Tolkien Estate Wins Court Order to Destroy Fan's 'Lord of...
by acchow on Thursday December 21, 2023 @12:19PM
(#38723394)
Kind of like patent trolls patenting an invention someone else is already actually using
Re:Tolkien Estate Wins Court Order to Destroy Fan's 'Lord of...
by jabroni_salad on Thursday December 21, 2023 @12:15PM
(#38723333)
Also, the book was submitted as an exhibit in the court case, so you can read it there. It's genuinely awful. Nothing of value is being lost here.
https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.cacd.88...