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Re:Waymo significantly outperforms comparable human benchmar... by tomComb on Wednesday December 20, 2023 @12:55PM (#38711499)
Once there is adequate competition, autonomous taxis should be much cheaper.
Re:Waymo significantly outperforms comparable human benchmar... by lamontcg on Wednesday December 20, 2023 @01:58PM (#38712258)
Except that our experience shows that over time competition decreases and things like regulatory capture happen so it becomes harder for anyone small to enter into competition and then prices get hiked up.

And the cars and autonomous driving software itself is becoming more expensive and more subscription-based over time so those rents are going to have to be passed on to the consumer. Large autonomous taxi services may be able to strike better deals or even build their own software/vehicles if they're big enough, but you're not going to be able to compete with them effectively by purchasing a Tesla (and presumably consumer prices will rise as there's less individual-owned vehicles and companies go seeking after only the highest margins and abandon the toyota-corolla market to the robotaxi corporations).

Re:Waymo significantly outperforms comparable human benchmar... by jvanderbot on Wednesday December 20, 2023 @12:56PM (#38711507)
This can be said for taxis as well, though, right? What's the difference?
Re:Waymo significantly outperforms comparable human benchmar... by wongarsu on Wednesday December 20, 2023 @12:59PM (#38711558)
Uber tries that, but it turns out in many places you can't offer human-driven taxis much cheaper once you put them on equal footing regarding insurance and other relevant regulations and stop running the service at a loss.
Re:Waymo significantly outperforms comparable human benchmar... by tyre on Wednesday December 20, 2023 @01:00PM (#38711573)
No need to pay a human and fewer total cars because they can operate mostly 24hr/day
Re:Waymo significantly outperforms comparable human benchmar... by roywiggins on Wednesday December 20, 2023 @04:34PM (#38713939)
Can't taxis already operate 24hrs a day? Just rotate out the drivers.
Re:Waymo significantly outperforms comparable human benchmar... by bluGill on Thursday December 21, 2023 @04:24PM (#38727173)
They can, but nobody wants a ride except drunks. Which is one reason why taxis look so bad: when a significant portion of your clients are drunk (throwing up in the back, peeing on the seats and all the other things they do) you don't want a nice car. Nice taxis don't work those shifts. If there is a big shared car market (I doubt it) you will see cars for different times of the day as a profile for potential drunk rider.
Re:Waymo significantly outperforms comparable human benchmar... by bonton89 on Wednesday December 20, 2023 @01:35PM (#38712014)
Most traffic occurs during the morning and evening commute, you'll need roughly the same number of vehicles for those surges unless those norms change as well.