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Re:Google's True Moonshot by andrewstuart on Monday December 18, 2023 @10:02PM (#38691279)
Google no longer seems relevant to anything much apart from what it’s already doing well… YouTube, search, android, maps.
Re:Google's True Moonshot by resolutebat on Monday December 18, 2023 @10:34PM (#38691498)
Can you provide some context about why this is relevant to the article, which posits that Google is uniquely positioned to win the AI space and hence the future of computing?

The potential payoff, though, is astronomical: a world with Pixie everywhere means a world where Google makes real money from selling hardware, in addition to services for enterprises and schools, and cloud services that leverage Google’s infrastructure to provide the same capabilities to businesses. Moreover, it’s a world where Google is truly integrated: the company already makes the chips, in both its phones and its data centers, it makes the models, and it does it all with the largest collection of data in the world.

Re:Google's True Moonshot by frankgrimesjr on Monday December 18, 2023 @10:54PM (#38691628)
I don't know enough about the AI space to comment on it specifically.

But this distinctly reminds me about articles around about the time of the first iPhone release which posited that Microsoft was in a unique position to ultimately win the smartphone market.

After all it was dominant on the desktop and Windows Mobile already had a decent (albeit not dominant) marketshare in smartphones at the time.

Re:Google's True Moonshot by kccqzy on Tuesday December 19, 2023 @01:49AM (#38692640)
The theory wasn't wrong and still isn't wrong. The problem is in the execution.
Re:Google's True Moonshot by renewiltord on Tuesday December 19, 2023 @02:07AM (#38692737)
The two things are related. That's the insight of The Innovator's Dilemma. They cannot do it.
Re:Google's True Moonshot by HarHarVeryFunny on Monday December 18, 2023 @10:53PM (#38691617)
But it doesn't seem to be true - there's more of a moat around search than AI it seems, and the recent trend is people replacing the Google search app on their phones with Perplexity.ai.

You currently still need search too, for AI's to access data newer than their training set, but I wonder how that's going to evolve over time ... Could see AI's being updated increasingly frequently and tapping direct into news sources (not via search) for news/sports/etc.

Re:Google's True Moonshot by andrewstuart on Monday December 18, 2023 @10:37PM (#38691518)
Because Google has burned it’s good will by cancelling so many projects.

Yet another new Google project is simply met with “ok, but when will it be canceled”.

Re:Google's True Moonshot by ur-whale on Tuesday December 19, 2023 @08:32AM (#38695287)
> which posits that Google is uniquely positioned to win the AI space and hence the future of computing?

They have been "uniquely positioned" as you put it to win the AI race for the past 15 years now.

And they have done exactly zilch (other than produce an OpenAI-wannabe fake video with Gemini a couple of weeks back).

I see no reason why that will change in any way.

Astronomical payoffs is not something Google is culturally capable of anymore, because they require risk taking, and strictly no one has any incentive to take any kind of risks at Google anymore.

Re:Google's True Moonshot by huytersd on Monday December 18, 2023 @11:33PM (#38691845)
Chrome, gmail, google docs/sheets, google meet, google drive, cloud, pixel, chrome book, nest, fiber, waymo
Re:Google's True Moonshot by tnecniv on Monday December 18, 2023 @10:11PM (#38691342)
Waymo?
Re:Google's True Moonshot by somenameforme on Monday December 18, 2023 @10:43PM (#38691552)
Way too early IMO. Think about something like Google Fiber. It looked extremely promising, but the inability (or lack of desire) to expand it left it as mostly irrelevant. With Waymo they also have some major issues to work out as they're bleeding billions while charging as much, if not more, as human driven cars charge. It might end up getting worked out in the future and turned into something neat, or it might just eventually find itself on the ever-growing scrap-heap.
Re:Google's True Moonshot by ShamelessC on Monday December 18, 2023 @10:53PM (#38691622)
aghem, Stadia, aghem
Re:Google's True Moonshot by riku_iki on Monday December 18, 2023 @10:34PM (#38691496)
> it’s already doing well

> search

many people disagree..

Re:Google's True Moonshot by geodel on Monday December 18, 2023 @10:41PM (#38691539)
It needs to be at least many hundred million disagree to matter.
Re:Google's True Moonshot by riku_iki on Monday December 18, 2023 @10:55PM (#38691632)
> hundred million

this is about how many people now going to ChatGPT while were going to Google year ago for similar searches

Re:Google's True Moonshot by huytersd on Tuesday December 19, 2023 @02:48AM (#38692965)
At least in my experience, ChatGPT uses Bing a whole lot. I wonder what the stats for Bing usage are now compared to Google since ChatGPT has been out for a while.