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Re:Sturgeon's law (90% of everything is crap) by hardware2win on Monday December 18, 2023 @11:20AM (#38684576)
Only 90%?

Take for example elo ranking in video games

Top10% or top5% may sound good

But the gap between top10% and top1% (let alone top 0.1%) is so huge that you could say that those ppl barely understand this game

Same when top 1% is matched against 0.1%

Re:Sturgeon's law (90% of everything is crap) by notatoad on Monday December 18, 2023 @11:36AM (#38684821)
You're using too broad a definition of "crap".

The top ten percent is not actual feces. It's just varying degrees of mediocre.

Re:Sturgeon's law (90% of everything is crap) by joenot443 on Monday December 18, 2023 @11:52AM (#38684983)
Is this really the case?

A top 1% ranked Dota player is about Divine 5, the only higher bracket being Immortal and its associated ranking individual. I think you're really stretching the idiom if you're implying Divine 5 players (most of whom have 3000+ hours) "barely understand this game." Obviously a team of immortals shouldn't ever lose to a team of divines, but I don't think it would have the appearance of a competition of total newbies vs seasoned pros.

Re:Sturgeon's law (90% of everything is crap) by LudwigNagasena on Monday December 18, 2023 @12:13PM (#38685272)
There is actually a different rule at play: People ranked below you barely understand the game; people ranked above you are nerds and no-lifers.
Re:Sturgeon's law (90% of everything is crap) by chongli on Monday December 18, 2023 @11:28AM (#38684695)
Yeah this is the real advantage of AI. Optimize that 90% -> 99.9999%!
Re:Sturgeon's law (90% of everything is crap) by episteme on Monday December 18, 2023 @11:29AM (#38684707)
This is brought up every time percentiles are brought up on Hacker News.

Based on this logic, do you think the law should be that 99.9% of everything is crap?

Re:Sturgeon's law (90% of everything is crap) by hnfong on Monday December 18, 2023 @11:59AM (#38685070)
It's just the good ol' power law at play.
Re:Sturgeon's law (90% of everything is crap) by bryanlarsen on Monday December 18, 2023 @11:36AM (#38684822)
90% are crap. 9% are so-so. 0.9% are ok. 0.09% are good, 0.009% are very good, ...
Re:Sturgeon's law (90% of everything is crap) by MichaelZuo on Monday December 18, 2023 @05:27PM (#38689286)
0.0009% are actual super-geniuses.