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Re:How Africans Are Changing French – One Joke, Rap and Book... by eloisant on Monday December 18, 2023 @03:44AM (#38680397)
The first time I went to US, I was pretty confident in my English but natives didn't understand me. I could repeat the same, grammatically correct sentence 3 times and they still wouldn't get it.

Then I realized that in English (especially American English) you have to accentuate the right syllabus or they won't understand you. Say you're going to "mounTAIN view" instead of "MOUNtain view" and they have no idea what place you're talking about.

Re:How Africans Are Changing French – One Joke, Rap and Book... by mathieuh on Monday December 18, 2023 @04:12AM (#38680559)
That's with every dialect of English. English has phonemic stress, i.e. the way you stress a word can change its meaning or make it unrecognisable unless you're speaking to an English-speaker familiar with people who speak English coloured by whatever your native language is. This is a particular problem for French-speakers, since French doesn't have phonemic stress.

British and Irish people will probably understand French-accented English better than Americans because of greater exposure to French.

Re:How Africans Are Changing French – One Joke, Rap and Book... by kubanczyk on Monday December 18, 2023 @04:35AM (#38680683)
True, but aren't you primarily talking here about vowel length? As a language feature it's more pronounced than accent/stress.

/ˈmaʊntɪn/ MOUNtain

/mɒn'taɪn/ mounTAIN (?)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vowel_length

Re:How Africans Are Changing French – One Joke, Rap and Book... by UncleSlacky on Monday December 18, 2023 @05:34AM (#38680977)
Reminds me of foreigners asking for "water" in the US at restaurants, having to pronouce it "wadder" in order to be understood.
Re:How Africans Are Changing French – One Joke, Rap and Book... by rprospero on Monday December 18, 2023 @08:53AM (#38682463)
I remember a grad student who went through a similar incident. While I appreciated his frustration, I also understand the anxiety of the poor server trying to remember how to mix a Woahtuh before my colleague decided to enunciate the coda.