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Re:More product, fewer product managers by jonhohle on Sunday December 17, 2023 @11:07AM (#38673760)
> advocating for better <topic of choice> is money much better spent

That seems like a very Bay Area mindset - advocacy is more lauded than doing something.

Re:More product, fewer product managers by ath3nd on Sunday December 17, 2023 @11:21AM (#38673850)
Fair enough!

I used "advocating" loosely here. I hate the "advocate a lot, build nothing" mindset myself, and I am not a fan of the Bay Area and its practices (to put it mildly), so I edited my post.

What I mean is devs making tools for devs, resulting in better overall quality.

Re:More product, fewer product managers by jonhohle on Monday December 18, 2023 @09:47AM (#38683206)
Sorry, that was a bit to snarky. While I don’t agree with not having dedicated QA, I completely agree with devs being responsible for the quality of their area and adjacent areas.

In my experience good test engineering teams can focus on having a more global view of systems while not being biased by implementation details.