> This really hits home. It was absurd. 12 people on a zoom call, 1-2, at most, speak beyond the introductions.

For a while there, I had a weekly meeting at a former employer that had 63 people on it. The goal of the project was to change the IP address on an Oracle server.

Nobody wanted to take responsibility for the change, because if it broke, they might be unemployed.

So it just dragged on, week after week after week.

I honestly don't know how you can work in an environment like that, it sounds like my idea of hell.

I once had a contracting job where nobody wanted to update-and-reboot a server because they were afraid of getting fired. As a contractor who already had another job anyway, I had no such fears. The server had been running for several years with no patches or updates. You'd think someone would've been fired for that?

Anyway, the "job" involved more meetings than actual, real work. I'd guess 4 hours of meetings and status updates for every 1 hour of work. I don't know how some places even function.