Intel launches Core Ultra processors, can it compete with the Apple M3?

Re:Intel launches Core Ultra processors, can it compete with... by kube-system on Thursday December 14, 2023 @06:43PM (#38649049)

Yes, but Intel is still mostly vertically integrated and I think a lot of people are looking to see if they can compete without completely changing their business model.

Intel says this is built on their Intel 4 process, which is, as I understand, their own 7nm process: https://www.intel.com/content/www/us/en/newsroom/resources/c...

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Re:Intel launches Core Ultra processors, can it compete with... by blackoil on Thursday December 14, 2023 @11:46PM (#38651077)

> Intel says this is built on their Intel 4 process, which is, as I understand, their own 7nm process:

nm are meaningless marketing numbers. In terms of performance/density Intel 4 should be in same ballpark as '4nm' of Samsung/TSMC.

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Re:Intel launches Core Ultra processors, can it compete with... by kube-system on Friday December 15, 2023 @12:46AM (#38651379)

I know they're all marketing numbers. My point stands that everyone is watching to see how they compete, because their fab tech has been playing catch up.

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Re:Intel launches Core Ultra processors, can it compete with... by DeathArrow on Friday December 15, 2023 @03:52AM (#38652314)

>In terms of performance/density Intel 4 should be in same ballpark as '4nm' of Samsung/TSMC.

Any proofs to back that up?

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Re:Intel launches Core Ultra processors, can it compete with... by smolder on Friday December 15, 2023 @10:22AM (#38655015)

It is true that Intel was ahead of TSMC for transistor density relative to the "nm" labelling of their nodes, which is exactly why the naming was changed. Intel 10nm was roughly equivalent to TSMC 7nm in density. They aren't beating TSMC in real terms, though. Intel is still lagging after their embarrassing stall developing the 10nm node.

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