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Re:Ed(1) mastery is a must for a real Unix person by tux1968 on Thursday December 14, 2023 @07:47AM (#38640750)
For those who don't notice straight away, the date on the article is April 1st.
Re:Ed(1) mastery is a must for a real Unix person by madamelic on Friday December 15, 2023 @11:18AM (#38655605)
Ok, good. I was so confused.

I thought this was like nerd supremacy but it does ring true: your text editor doesn't matter, you are not a better writer / programmer / person because of what editor you use.

I did thoroughly enjoy the dig about BSD supremacy. Those guys are worse than vegans and environmentalists. :)

Re:Ed(1) mastery is a must for a real Unix person by fragmede on Friday December 15, 2023 @12:36PM (#38656437)
> you are not a better writer / programmer / person because of what editor you use

somebody uses Emacs...

But seriously, the tribalism over which is better is ridiculous, but a good writer/programmer/person chooses their tools intentionally, and makes their tools work for them instead of against them. My choice of editor doesn't make me better than you, but it makes me better than a version of me using sub par tools that I have to fight to make work. It's about reaching flow state and being able to do work, and make work happen. If forced to cut down a tree in 5 minutes, the learned lumberjack will spend 3 sharpening their axe.

Re:Ed(1) mastery is a must for a real Unix person by foobarian on Friday December 15, 2023 @12:20PM (#38656233)
I mostly agree, however it seems that a certain core of editor controls has managed to spread and become a commonly available default in various products. The emacs shortcuts in particular seem to be available any place there is a text editor box like in browsers, in web IDEs, mainstream IDEs like VSCode or IntelliJ etc etc and as such I think it makes good sense to learn those just as a matter of education.
Re:Ed(1) mastery is a must for a real Unix person by SllX on Friday December 15, 2023 @12:25PM (#38656306)
They’re associated with Emacs now but at least some of them seem to go back to TENEX: http://unix-kb.cat-v.org/
Re:Ed(1) mastery is a must for a real Unix person by sproingie on Friday December 15, 2023 @12:23PM (#38656266)
Emacs keybindings are even baked into NSText, the basis of everything to do with text handling in macOS.
Re:Ed(1) mastery is a must for a real Unix person by hollerith on Saturday December 16, 2023 @11:28AM (#38665448)
A bit of an exaggeration because VSCode (on macOS or any other OS) for example does not recognize any Emacs keybindings.

Ditto textareas in Chrome and Firefox.

Re:Ed(1) mastery is a must for a real Unix person by heyoni on Friday December 15, 2023 @11:49AM (#38655921)
Yea like what's a fake unix person like?
Re:Ed(1) mastery is a must for a real Unix person by bluetomcat on Friday December 15, 2023 @12:00PM (#38656034)
Someone using WSL 2 on Windows 11, or a macOS user who only knows how to type "ls" in their terminal :-)
Re:Ed(1) mastery is a must for a real Unix person by RichardCA on Friday December 15, 2023 @04:22PM (#38658995)
Anyone who didn't start during the CRT era, when you couldn't even count on curses support in the terminal.

The "everything is a printer" abstraction started because PDP's that ran V7 Unix at Bell Labs really did use Teletypes for user interaction.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Teleprinter

Re:Ed(1) mastery is a must for a real Unix person by airstrike on Friday December 15, 2023 @12:28PM (#38656353)
which seems silly given today is December 15.....