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Re:'Like we were lesser humans': Gaza boys, men recall Israe... by mvdtnz on Tuesday December 12, 2023 @08:30PM (#38621491)
There was a ceasefire. IDF ended it because Hamas fired rockets and didn't hold up their end of the hostage release bargain. There was a ceasefire before that, which Hamas broke by invading Israel and torturing, raping and murdering over a thousand innocent civilians.
Re:'Like we were lesser humans': Gaza boys, men recall Israe... by keefle on Tuesday December 12, 2023 @11:34PM (#38622695)
Thats not completely true. By the time Hamas fired that rocket the time has already ended of the truce (7:00 am of that day), and Hamas was clear that it could not meet the extension criteria (brining out 10 more hostages from the category being exchanged (children and women)), it even proposed moving to another criteria (elderly), but Israel refused

Again watch your language and only claim what has been proved (rape has not). I do agree atrocities were committed tho, but to stay partial and critical in this assessment we must be clear with ourselves on what has been proven to have happened, and what didn't. For instance we know Israel is also responsible for a portion of the killing of Israeli civilians on the 7th of October. Many burned bodies for instance turned out to be Hamas operatives hit with hellfire missiles. So let's be careful

Re:'Like we were lesser humans': Gaza boys, men recall Israe... by egisspegis on Wednesday December 13, 2023 @03:30AM (#38624283)
That's a bold usage of "watch your language" coming from shill account.

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-67629181

Re:'Like we were lesser humans': Gaza boys, men recall Israe... by xg15 on Wednesday December 13, 2023 @04:56AM (#38625012)
What does this have to do with the question of who broke the ceasefire?
Re:'Like we were lesser humans': Gaza boys, men recall Israe... by egisspegis on Wednesday December 13, 2023 @07:47AM (#38626566)
Nothing, because I was not replying to that. I was replying to the statement that "rape has not been proved" and everyone stating otherwise should "watch their language".
Re:'Like we were lesser humans': Gaza boys, men recall Israe... by huytersd on Tuesday December 12, 2023 @10:03PM (#38622142)
Before that there was a ceasefire and the Zionists came in and murdered and displaced all the people living there and took their land and livelihoods and shunted everyone into an open air prison.
Re:'Like we were lesser humans': Gaza boys, men recall Israe... by za3faran on Wednesday December 13, 2023 @03:03AM (#38624068)
It's amazing how some people keep repeating the rape accusation when there is literally not only zero evidence for it, but evidence of the contrary, israeli forces raping Palestinian women.
Re:'Like we were lesser humans': Gaza boys, men recall Israe... by xg15 on Wednesday December 13, 2023 @04:18AM (#38624682)
Do you have sources for both claims?

I saw no reason not to believe the rape accusations of Hamas - many women came forward with this and it would absolutely fit with all the other things Hamas did on Oct. 7 - how they paraded around Shani Louk and then later killed her.

Unfortunately, rape by Israeli guards of Palestinian captives would also be believable from the reports you hear about treatments of captives.

Re:'Like we were lesser humans': Gaza boys, men recall Israe... by za3faran on Wednesday December 13, 2023 @09:04AM (#38627487)
As far as I'm aware, there is no single first person testimony of the rape, let alone any independently verified forensic reports. We've seen so many debunked stories coming out of israeli side. Remember the 40 beheaded babies that biden supposedly saw then the white house had to quickly back out of? Or the story that pregnant women were cut up alive and their fetuses extracted? Or that babies were thrown in the ovens? Let's also not forget their many lies before, like how they denied killing Shireen Abu Akleh.

These outrageous claims are fitting with the panic then overreaction we're seeing on the israeli side, resulting in them shelling their own kibutzes, and now murdering tens of thousands of Palestinian civilians in cold blood, after announcing terrible things like they're not looking for accuracy, but damage, and that they're fighting "human animals". Not only that, but some stories like the last two in the previous paragraph have actually been documented to have been done by israelis during previous massacres like Der Yassin and Sabra and Shatila.

As far as the abuse done by israel on Palestinian women and even children

[1] https://jordantimes.com/opinion/ramzy-baroud/untold-story-ab...

[2] https://electronicintifada.net/blogs/tamara-nassar/israel-cr...

[3] https://www.cair.com/cair_in_the_news/israeli-guards-rape-pa...