I think the feminist in question wants attribution for herself rather than to make a point.

Both sides have been harmed. The war is about reducing continuing harm from an organisation that literally said that this was just the start of things...

By harming civilians? Like GGP, I am disgusted by everyone carrying a weapon in this conflict. These people were driven out of their homes and walled off in poverty a few decades ago by an unelected government, which legitimized itself with elections only after they were gone. Some of the displaced are violent. That doesn't justify inflicting further pain on the rest.

Please don’t make excuses for either side.

Where did I excuse the violent or the people advocating violence? Some are violent on both sides of the conflict, and all of them are wrong.

This is silly, and it reduces women to beings without agency. It is a cultural thing, and sex has nothing to do with it. One could even argue that it is women who raise those boys like that (which is of course not correct).

It is the dominator culture, which feminism until the third wave was trying to abolish. Fourth wave feminism is a product of it.

>When you're on the side of women and children, who lose in every conflict, everyone else gets confused because they expect you to pick one of the men's teams.

So men don't lose in every conflict? Countries are "men's teams"?

I'm sorry but this is infantilizing as well as brutally sexist.

Women certainly gained a lot economically from WWII while the men were getting minced at Normandy. Ukrainian women and children were allowed to flee while the men are eviscerated by Wagner and Friends.

Current estimates suggest 2/3 of civilian deaths in Gaza consist of women and children. That leaves 1/3 of deaths being men. But this is disregarded altogether because sexist rhetoric is acceptable when you're a radical feminist UwU.

I can't find exact numbers easily, but a Turkish source said in 2023-November:

> The Palestinian Health Ministry said on Tuesday that the death toll from Israeli’s ongoing intensified onslaught on the Gaza Strip since Oct. 7 has jumped to 10,328 people. Among the killed are 4,237 children and 2,719 women, Gaza-based Health Ministry spokesman Ashraf al-Qudra said at a press conference. (https://www.aa.com.tr/en/middle-east/palestinian-death-toll-...)

10328 dead. 2719 were women. 4237 were children. Someone's missing-- oh, must be 3372 men.

It turns out men and children also comprise 2/3 of deaths right now. In raw numbers women are actually the least-affected of all demographics in the current conflict, but the narrative is touted that women have it worse. (The NYT corollary: black women always have it worse.)

To claim that women are the biggest losers in every conflict is histrionic bullshit. Men just don't count because we're stupid enough to defend them, while everybody loses in war-- children, most of all.

95% plus of the time the war is decided and progressed by men. Very few women in the Israeli government, and none making decisions in Hamas. Same in Venezuela and Guyana, Russia and Ukraine, Sudan etc etc

That's still how our patriarchal societies unfortunately work.. that's similarly true for a lot of western governments still.

Nevertheless, even if the little elite that decides the fate of the peace wanting majority is 100% men, what does that now mean for suffering little men vs women?

The Israeli army btw has a surprisingly high percentage of women.. do now more men or women suffer? Please just let's stop with the nonsense, humans suffer.

Lots of women with power in Venezuela. Check yourself before you check others. Socialist regimes love to show women in power to prove how progressive they are.

I.e https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adina_Bastidas

Ok. Say the war between Russia and Ukraine ends.

Regardless of who wins, does that country now have to cherish and celebrate the men for what they did?

Do we look at human progress overall as "something done by men"? Because the vast majority was done by men. Do we look at cities as things "made by men"?

You can't have it both ways. Women either take credit and responsibility for contributions to society or they don't. Very few women in governments which decided to give voting rights to women, very few making decisions. Is giving women the right to vote an achievement from men? It's ridiculous.

This has the typical "man dead, woman most affected" energy of modern feminism.

Although I got a good chuckle out of that, don't lose sight of the bigger goal here. Fighting needs to stop or, failing that, be contained. We want to create low-stress, high-comfort, high opportunity situations.

If doing that involves building coalitions with people who don't care about men dying then so be it. If they do care then so be it. The important thing is where the opinion goes regarding war. What motivates it deserves discussion, but as long as the direction is good that is the most important thing settled.