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Re:YouTube doesn't want to take down scam ads by bluGill on Tuesday December 12, 2023 @09:12AM (#38612281)
There is incentive, but they don't realize it. I know that online ads are often enough scams, so I won't buy anything from those ads. I do have to take effort to ensure that they don't effect me anyway (hint from basic psychology: they do, but I can make that effect less). If they did some work to ensure ads were not scams - I've seen ads for a number of interesting things that I intentionally did not buy because odds it was a scam was too high.
Re:YouTube doesn't want to take down scam ads by InsomniacL on Tuesday December 12, 2023 @10:23AM (#38613331)
> I know that online ads are often enough scams, so I won't buy anything from those ads.

I'm exactly the same. I will try to go directly to websites instead of clicking on adds from search results to avoid the PPC charge too.

Re:YouTube doesn't want to take down scam ads by Takennickname on Tuesday December 12, 2023 @09:45AM (#38612780)
You are almost irrelevant to the conversation. The scammers only need 100 people to believe them from the potentially millions of people who view their ad to make it profitable.

You are not grasping the scale of the matter.

Re:YouTube doesn't want to take down scam ads by ivanbakel on Tuesday December 12, 2023 @09:53AM (#38612902)
You're missing the GP's point. They're claiming that scam ads pollute the ad marketplace and drive away engagement. Why click on an ad, or even pay attention to it, if there's a good chance it's a scam? And why would advertisers pay for ads if consumers are not engaging with them?

Thus, Google has an incentive to keep the ad space free of scams - it makes Google users more valuable to advertisers.

Re:YouTube doesn't want to take down scam ads by onion2k on Tuesday December 12, 2023 @04:34PM (#38618925)
Maybe the fact Google doesn't police Ads is a signal that advertising isn't as lucrative as it once was...
Re:YouTube doesn't want to take down scam ads by TremendousJudge on Tuesday December 12, 2023 @09:54AM (#38612914)
GPs argument is the opposite of this: it's not about the scammers, but about the legit brands. The same way Pepsi doesn't want to get their ads shown over somebody discussing STDs or something of the sort, they probably also don't want to get their ads shown next to scams, since it makes the product kinda seem like a scam by association.
Re:YouTube doesn't want to take down scam ads by IggleSniggle on Tuesday December 12, 2023 @12:14PM (#38615128)
It also increases the cost of the ad, though, by introducing more buyer competition for the available slot. And a higher cost per available slot is good for the seller AND for the middlemen involved in the transaction.
Re:YouTube doesn't want to take down scam ads by bluGill on Tuesday December 12, 2023 @02:18PM (#38616948)
Does it increase the cost of the ad? Or does it decrease the cost of ads because the larger number of legitimate products don't want to be there and so are not buying ads at all.
Re:YouTube doesn't want to take down scam ads by IggleSniggle on Tuesday December 12, 2023 @06:00PM (#38620002)
It increases the cost in the short term, and potentially decreases the cost in the longer term.
Re:YouTube doesn't want to take down scam ads by benterix on Thursday December 14, 2023 @04:46AM (#38639573)
Well, I guess it might change. I witnessed an exchange between two women, one was saying she would consider buying something after she saw an ad on Instagram, the other one laughed, "but you know ads on Instagram are scams, don't you"?

So my guess is that even though scammers are still finding victims, the side effect is that more and more people are mentally equating ads with scams and the whole "industry" loses - both big brands ("is someone impersonating them, just like they usually do with famous people?") and small ones ("I've never heard of them, it's probably scam like the rest").

Re:YouTube doesn't want to take down scam ads by staunton on Tuesday December 12, 2023 @11:46AM (#38614651)
Most people believe they themselves cannot be influenced by ads "at all". If they were right, nobody would bother making ads.
Re:YouTube doesn't want to take down scam ads by tremon on Tuesday December 12, 2023 @12:14PM (#38615124)
And you can prove this, how?

If the people making ads can be influenced by ads, why would they ever stop making them? It works for them, doesn't it?

Re:YouTube doesn't want to take down scam ads by AshamedCaptain on Tuesday December 12, 2023 @01:46PM (#38616493)
Supposedly all these metrics like "conversions" measure the amount of people convinced by ads.

But there's also the rumor floating around that all of these metrics are just hugely inflated, that these modern ads have in truth rates so miserable that a plain old billboard in the middle of nowhere would serve advertisers better, and that therefore the "modern WWW" is built on a foundation of lies, exagerations, and fake statistics.

Choose your poison.

Re:YouTube doesn't want to take down scam ads by bluGill on Tuesday December 12, 2023 @02:29PM (#38617114)
Conversion is a great metric if an immediate purchase your goal, but that is only rarely the correct goal. When something else is the goal it is much harder to measure.

Most ads are about a future purchase. They need to measure not did you buy now from this ad, but did all the ads you saw across all platforms (YouTube, Facebook, radio, tv, billboards) make enough of a difference in your buying habits when you finally buy. This is hard to measure, but it is more important. Most people are not buying now from an ad, they are buying in the future.

Sometimes ads are about an image. Even if you cannot afford some luxury good, they may want to advertise so that you recognize it on someone else and think "that is a rich person".

Re:YouTube doesn't want to take down scam ads by sumtechguy on Tuesday December 12, 2023 @02:05PM (#38616779)
My brain still has advertising campaigns from 40+ years go in my head. That junk sticks.
Re:YouTube doesn't want to take down scam ads by bluGill on Tuesday December 12, 2023 @02:19PM (#38616957)
which is why I said I take steps to avoid the influence, but not that I'm not influenced.