Re:Dieselgate, but for trains – some heavyweight hardware ha...
by greesil on Friday December 08, 2023 @07:44AM
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To what end? So they can sell more trains? That makes no sense.
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Re:Dieselgate, but for trains – some heavyweight hardware ha...
by virgildotcodes on Friday December 08, 2023 @07:48AM
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It seems like the trains were programmed to cease functioning if they spent more than 10 days at the GPS coordinates of maintenance shops not owned by the original manufacturer.
This would force the government to rely exclusively on that manufacturer to then fix these trains and perform all future maintenance.
Re:Dieselgate, but for trains – some heavyweight hardware ha...
by smolder on Friday December 08, 2023 @07:48AM
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They wanted to prevent third party repair services from being able to repair their trains, so that they could keep those maintenance contracts for themselves.
Re:Dieselgate, but for trains – some heavyweight hardware ha...
by snthd on Friday December 08, 2023 @07:47AM
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>The train manufacturer, Newag, also competed in the tender to carry out the maintenance, but the manufacturer’s bid was about 750k USD higher and the tender was eventually won by SPS, which offered to carry out the maintenance of 11 trains for around 5.5 mln USD.
Re:Dieselgate, but for trains – some heavyweight hardware ha...
by Crosseye_Jack on Friday December 08, 2023 @07:55AM
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Just thinking outloud. But if you made it so your competitor couldn't fulfill their servicing contract, then the entity taking out the contract might just very well come to you to solve the problem. You might not win the contract on price, but win it by default because you made it impossible for anyone else to complete it.
That is until your scheme is uncovered because you left the GPS coordinates of your competitors workshops in your code.
Re:Dieselgate, but for trains – some heavyweight hardware ha...
by bluGill on Friday December 08, 2023 @09:13AM
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More sanely (not to be confused with likely!) the courts will decide that since this is something only the OEM can do, it must done at no charge as part of normal warranty work.
Re:Dieselgate, but for trains – some heavyweight hardware ha...
by josefx on Friday December 08, 2023 @10:11AM
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These trains will be used for decades. Normal warranty wont cover anything of note.
Re:Dieselgate, but for trains – some heavyweight hardware ha...
by bluGill on Friday December 08, 2023 @10:50AM
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Warranty should cover this - if the manufacture won't let it be fixed by someone else than in should be free.
Re:Dieselgate, but for trains – some heavyweight hardware ha...
by InCityDreams on Friday December 08, 2023 @08:02AM
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Every once in a while there comes a point where the discussion of high-currency-shorthand pops up:
>5.5 mln USD. U$5.5m? Not saying I'm more correct than anyone else, but the former seems outlandishly long.
Re:Dieselgate, but for trains – some heavyweight hardware ha...
by snthd on Friday December 08, 2023 @08:25AM
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mln is from the Polish original.
Re:Dieselgate, but for trains – some heavyweight hardware ha...
by HPsquared on Friday December 08, 2023 @08:17AM
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5.5 millidollars?
Re:Dieselgate, but for trains – some heavyweight hardware ha...
by rakoo on Friday December 08, 2023 @07:54AM
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How does that make no sense ? That's the whole point of a business.
Re:Dieselgate, but for trains – some heavyweight hardware ha...
by mannykannot on Friday December 08, 2023 @08:53AM
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The idea that does not make sense is that this would increase train sales, not the idea that selling more trains would be good for business.
Re:Dieselgate, but for trains – some heavyweight hardware ha...
by drucik on Friday December 08, 2023 @10:36AM
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After sales support, as in spare parts and maintenance, is a big part of income for manufacturers of heavy equipment, as such machines run for a loong time given parts and maintenance. To me they really did not want to lose on 'subscription money' in the form of service contracts they missed out on. It came close to the operator coming back to them to fix the trains 3rd party seemingly couldn't.
Re:Dieselgate, but for trains – some heavyweight hardware ha...
by tensility on Friday December 08, 2023 @12:12PM
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Vendor lock-in for maintenance has massive financial incentive, as was relatively clear in the article, even going so far as to cite some explicit numbers that are relatively big money when projected across the scale of an entire fleet.