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Re:Swedish Tesla strike goes international as Norwegian and ... by brightball on Thursday December 07, 2023 @11:13AM (#38558080)
At this point, I honestly just hope the standoff continues because I want to see how many moves each side has. This is really interesting to watch as somebody who isn't affected by it directly.

Government workers deciding not to provide services to specific entities or people they are in dispute with is a bridge that I can only assume should have some pretty serious consequences.

Re:Swedish Tesla strike goes international as Norwegian and ... by 1970-01-01 on Thursday December 07, 2023 @11:46AM (#38558583)
The sad truth is there is plenty of room for Musk to make things much worse. I imagine he can deny them SpaceX payloads. Starlink was just made available to them as well. He could throttle or deny their uplinks and downlinks.
Re:Swedish Tesla strike goes international as Norwegian and ... by othorns on Thursday December 07, 2023 @12:16PM (#38559035)
Starlink is such a niche product in Sweden, it would be such a pointless move that would go by totally without notice. The vast majority of Sweden is covered by 4G and 90% 5G coverage is excpeted within a year. Broadband via fiber is ubiquitous and a lot cheaper than the USA (at least in the comparisons I've seen).

Can't speak about spacex not sure if any Swedish companies do business with them.

Re:Swedish Tesla strike goes international as Norwegian and ... by VoxPelli on Friday December 08, 2023 @11:43AM (#38571006)
Sweden has to double down on Esrange I guess
Re:Swedish Tesla strike goes international as Norwegian and ... by fragmede on Thursday December 07, 2023 @11:48AM (#38558607)
Even worse than that, he could make fun of them on Twitter!
Re:Swedish Tesla strike goes international as Norwegian and ... by niemandhier on Thursday December 07, 2023 @12:07PM (#38558878)
I hope he does, it would seriously incentivise someone to build a competing service!
Re:Swedish Tesla strike goes international as Norwegian and ... by Hamuko on Thursday December 07, 2023 @12:13PM (#38558974)
Does Starlink matter at all in Sweden? I've always assumed they have robust Internet connectivity and 4G/5G like we do in Finland.
Re:Swedish Tesla strike goes international as Norwegian and ... by 1970-01-01 on Thursday December 07, 2023 @12:33PM (#38559238)
Not just in Sweden, but also the massive Norwegian and Maersk shipping businesses. I assume they already have it on many of the ships.

https://www.maersk.com/news/articles/2023/10/12/maersk-signs...

Re:Swedish Tesla strike goes international as Norwegian and ... by othorns on Thursday December 07, 2023 @12:21PM (#38559086)
It does not, totally irrelevant product for most people, especially since it is way more expensive than uncaped 4G/5G and most people have a cheap and fast physical unlink at home.

Might be useful for some cabins way out in the wilderness or on an island. But maybe not even then, my grandparents cabin has fiber

Re:Swedish Tesla strike goes international as Norwegian and ... by jacquesm on Thursday December 07, 2023 @01:54PM (#38560220)
Well, he can. But if he does then every other country that currently uses SpaceX for their payloads may end up thinking twice about giving the megalomaniac even more power.

Because: normal people just obey the laws of the countries where they do business.

Musk will end up self destructing over something like this sooner or later, the guy has no sense of when to back down and just keeps on taking on parties with power until he loses and when he loses it will be at a level that he won't be able to recover from. You pick your battles with care, and this is one that was utterly unnecessary. After all the damage the Tesla brand has suffered on account of his Twitter antics (I refuse to call it 'X') he really doesn't need more, especially not in a market that was so far a substantial plank in Tesla's strategy and a country with massive early adoption.

Re:Swedish Tesla strike goes international as Norwegian and ... by Hikikomori on Thursday December 07, 2023 @02:40PM (#38560817)
That will just get SpaceX sued for breach of contract.
Re:Swedish Tesla strike goes international as Norwegian and ... by ImPostingOnHN on Thursday December 07, 2023 @11:22AM (#38558206)
They're almost all private workers exercising their right of association (or lack thereof) with a person who they believe is mistreating or trying to mistreat workers.

If a "customer" walks into a store and starts mistreating workers, it's totally reasonable for them to tell the customer to buzz off, and for their employer to support them. What kind of terrible boss or society would force workers to service their abuser?

If elmu wants to throw his money around to exploit and abuse workers, he can do it somewhere else. Few others seem to be having this issue, so it seems the root cause is him and his behavior. Whether or not he fixes himself, Sweden did and will do fine without this 1 rich narcissist with oppositional defiant disorder.

Re:Swedish Tesla strike goes international as Norwegian and ... by VoxPelli on Friday December 08, 2023 @11:46AM (#38571044)
It’s fun to see Americans upset over private workers exercising their rights and the fact that Swedish postal service is a private business, must hurt to realize that the Nordics in many ways has less government overhead than the US :D
Re:Swedish Tesla strike goes international as Norwegian and ... by martin8412 on Thursday December 07, 2023 @01:45PM (#38560107)
Eventually, Tesla Sweden will go bankrupt. IF Metall will go to the union for the financial industry at some point. That means no more financial services for Tesla Sweden. Then they can't sell cars(must be in SEK in Sweden), they can't pay suppliers and their workers. If they can't pay their workers, it triggers automatic bankruptcy proceedings where the courts start seizing things to ensure that the workers will be paid. They began the same process with Toys'r'us and the company immediately folded when they realised the consequences.

Don't worry, the courts aren't on strike against Tesla.