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Re:Commuting time of more than 30 min one way linked to high... by throwaway22032 on Wednesday December 06, 2023 @04:12PM (#38549539)
Yeah, the comfort levels affect this hugely.

I'd rather do a 45 minute commute via a clean air conditioned train with few and well behaved passengers than a 30 minute one on a crowded dirty bus.

Re:Commuting time of more than 30 min one way linked to high... by BobaFloutist on Wednesday December 06, 2023 @04:34PM (#38549789)
A thirty minute stroll from home to the office could be considered a net benefit, in all honesty.
Re:Commuting time of more than 30 min one way linked to high... by wizerdrobe on Wednesday December 06, 2023 @04:37PM (#38549840)
When I had the option of a 25 minute drive or a 35 minute bicycle ride I took the bicycle all the time. Exercise, sunlight, and the joy of passing stuck motorists in the bicycle lane.
Re:Commuting time of more than 30 min one way linked to high... by plumeria on Wednesday December 06, 2023 @05:35PM (#38550435)
Sightseeing feels also different, in a better way, when cycling or walking than when using a car.
Re:Commuting time of more than 30 min one way linked to high... by cozzyd on Wednesday December 06, 2023 @07:01PM (#38551162)
I have 15-20 comfortable train ride followed by a 15 minute stroll. It's pretty relaxing... If I'm in a hurry I can use a bike share to bike from the train station to the office but that's less relaxing since you have to watch out for cars...
Re:Commuting time of more than 30 min one way linked to high... by lotsofpulp on Thursday December 07, 2023 @09:26AM (#38556661)
In a Mediterranean climate, yes.
Re:Commuting time of more than 30 min one way linked to high... by BobaFloutist on Wednesday December 13, 2023 @02:27PM (#38632907)
Fair point.
Re:Commuting time of more than 30 min one way linked to high... by brailsafe on Wednesday December 06, 2023 @04:39PM (#38549875)
and a crowded dirty bus, for me at least, is wildly more preferable than driving unless the drive is some beautiful leisurely rural setting
Re:Commuting time of more than 30 min one way linked to high... by yetanother12345 on Wednesday December 06, 2023 @08:49PM (#38551866)
> train with few and well behaved passengers

Few? If you are commuting you will be doing so in the same drove as all the others that are trying to reach the office space within the same window of a select few hours. And, probably the same when you return. Few is not an option.

As to well behaved, well... we all live in more or less mixed cultural groups these days thanks to i18n, expats, immigration, and travel and stuff... "one man's meat is another mans poison..." ... don't even get me started on the joys of smartphones - other peoples' smartphones...

Added:

With trains there is also the specific issue that your nominated 30 minute one-way commute will at random intervals be of much longer duration, possibly hours (most of these spent idle, waiting for something out of your control). And, the fact that you will not know this in advance. I have no knowledge of any train system anywhere in the world where this does not hold, but I would love to be enlightened.