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Re:Why Windows Is So Much Better in the EU [video] by FirmwareBurner on Tuesday December 05, 2023 @06:24AM (#38529540)
Ha, enjoy 24H clock, DD-MM-YYYY, comma as the decimal separator, along with the Royale with Cheese :)
Re:Why Windows Is So Much Better in the EU [video] by soyyo on Tuesday December 05, 2023 @07:11AM (#38529860)
And adopt the metric system? hell no, I'd rather let Microsoft invade every inch of my house!

By the way, Royale with cheese is not actually a thing across all Europe, in Spain it's called "cuarto de libra" which is the actual translation for "Quarter-Pounder", this made the Spanish translation of that Pulp Fiction dialogue somehow nonsense and made most Spaniards realize where the name "cuarto de libra" came from, before that people usually assumed it was some commercial name without any particular meaning.

Re:Why Windows Is So Much Better in the EU [video] by 6510 on Tuesday December 05, 2023 @08:07AM (#38530222)
We've been looking for ways to force the US onto the metric system.
Re:Why Windows Is So Much Better in the EU [video] by ajuc on Tuesday December 05, 2023 @06:57AM (#38529762)
What are the disadvantages?
Re:Why Windows Is So Much Better in the EU [video] by yasuocidal on Tuesday December 05, 2023 @06:30AM (#38529586)
Thats not very freedom of you
Re:Why Windows Is So Much Better in the EU [video] by the_only_law on Tuesday December 05, 2023 @06:30AM (#38529591)
Will I get my seconds counter back at least?
Re:Why Windows Is So Much Better in the EU [video] by FirmwareBurner on Tuesday December 05, 2023 @06:54AM (#38529732)
It's still there right now if you enable it.
Re:Why Windows Is So Much Better in the EU [video] by PrimeMcFly on Tuesday December 05, 2023 @06:35AM (#38529618)
Is a 24 hour clock really that common in the EU? I can use both because it's not exactly hard to read 24 hour time, but I have noticed its kind of rare in the US. I didn't think it was common let alone the norm in Europe though.

Edit: Appreciate all the replies, thank you.

Re:Why Windows Is So Much Better in the EU [video] by ajuc on Tuesday December 05, 2023 @06:46AM (#38529697)
In Poland in 90s people still used 12h clock slightly more often than 24h (but both were used interchangeably). Nowadays only really old people use 12h by default. Everything's in 24h. It's just much better.

People might still say "meet at 7" instead of 19 for a shortcut it it's obvious from the context, but they will write it as 19:00 and think of it as 19:00.

BTW we never did "am" vs "pm", we had "1..11 morning" -> "12 noon" -> "1..11 afternoon" -> "12 midnight". And for afternoon hours the "afternoon" was usually skipped. So no 12 am/pm confusion. I could never get used to the American am/pm.

Re:Why Windows Is So Much Better in the EU [video] by 6510 on Tuesday December 05, 2023 @07:55AM (#38530110)
Kinda weird now that you bring it up. We use 13 and say 1, 14 we call 2, 15 is 3, 16 is 4, 17 is 5, 18 is 6, 19 is 7, 20 is 8, 21 is 9, 22 is 10, 23 is 11 and last but not least 0 means 12.

It seems like a bad idea if I've ever seen 13.

Re:Why Windows Is So Much Better in the EU [video] by nottorp on Tuesday December 05, 2023 @06:46AM (#38529695)
Where it matters it's 24 hours. You'll never see event schedules, train timetables, store opening hours etc as "6pm". Only "18:00".

In speech we use 12 hours. But then it's mostly clear from context.

Tbh I don't see how you can live with 12 hour clocks on appliances in the US. I bought a Cuisinart coffee filter and it has the 12 hour clock and an invisible dot that shows am or pm. It can also be set to start on its own at a certain hour. 60% of the time, when I change the settings i get it wrong because who the hell can see that dot?

Re:Why Windows Is So Much Better in the EU [video] by whyoh on Tuesday December 05, 2023 @06:43AM (#38529675)
24H is definitely the norm when the time is written down or displayed on a screen. But when spoken, people often/mostly say "at 4" rather than "at 16" (I think this varies somewhat from country to country).
Re:Why Windows Is So Much Better in the EU [video] by fuzzfactor on Tuesday December 05, 2023 @06:01PM (#38538161)
In the USA I do get an unfamiliar reaction sometimes when I say I want to get to someplace early, like about "quarter 'til 16" or so.
Re:Why Windows Is So Much Better in the EU [video] by FirmwareBurner on Tuesday December 05, 2023 @06:44AM (#38529680)
>Is a 24 hour clock really that common in the EU?

In written and official setting yes, time is always specified in 24H.

But depending on culture and language, in speak most people use the 12H sistem because the AM/PM is implied to be obvious from the context and 24h one has too many syllables: "Let's meet tonight at seven" instead of "Let's meet tonight at nine-teen."

Re:Why Windows Is So Much Better in the EU [video] by coumbaya on Tuesday December 05, 2023 @06:41AM (#38529660)
I don't know about the rest of the EU, but in france any digital display is 24 hour yeah (fridge, car, watch, you name it).
Re:Why Windows Is So Much Better in the EU [video] by fenring on Tuesday December 05, 2023 @06:52AM (#38529729)
in polish, there is no equivalent to "AM" and "PM" shortcuts (and am/pm itself is not used) - that should explain that 24h is the only time format we use in text. You can use 12h orally, as was explained earlier - in most situations it's obvious if it's AM/PM.
Re:Why Windows Is So Much Better in the EU [video] by Dah00n on Tuesday December 05, 2023 @06:57AM (#38529763)
In my more than four decades of life, I have yet to learn AM and PM for long enough for it to stick. So, yes.
Re:Why Windows Is So Much Better in the EU [video] by anthk on Tuesday December 05, 2023 @06:57AM (#38529770)
Spaniard here. We speak in terms of 1-12 hours but we know to parse 17:00 as 5PM in the spot. As they stated, we write down 17:00 but to speak it aloud to the rest of people we will just say 'five o'clock in the evening'.
Re:Why Windows Is So Much Better in the EU [video] by PrimeMcFly on Tuesday December 05, 2023 @07:16AM (#38529894)
> We speak in terms of 1-12 hours but we know to parse 17:00 as 5PM in the spot.

This is how it is for me as well, once you learn 24h time it's about as simple as can be, and I learned when I was a kid. I don't think I've ever lived anywhere where 24h time was the norm for writing/displaying though - or maybe I just didn't notice because I'm fine with it.