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Re:A Few Words About Blameless Culture – By Michael Hart – O... by resonious on Monday December 04, 2023 @08:51AM (#38517169)
This "blameful, not blameless" wording is a bit confusing to me. Are we blaming or not? "Blameful" isn't even a word, according to my web browser. The browser is showing red squiggles and so is my brain.

I think it'd be a little more potent to just say hey, there's a difference between saying someone is partially responsible for an issue, and pestering them about it (e.g. telling them they did a bad thing when they likely already know - I suspect that is what people want to avoid when they go "blameless"). Blame is blame, and disrespect is disrespect. I like to see them as orthogonal.

The article's fire suppression story doesn't even seem like a blame problem to me. It was a jumping to conclusions problem. But again, maybe I only think this because the definition of "blame" is being played with.

Re:A Few Words About Blameless Culture – By Michael Hart – O... by squigz on Monday December 04, 2023 @09:56AM (#38518031)
Re:A Few Words About Blameless Culture – By Michael Hart – O... by lazyasciiart on Monday December 04, 2023 @03:20PM (#38522489)
pestering them? What people are actually worried about is firing them, which still happens even at companies that pretend they know better. I heard from friends at Salesforce that this guy was fired, for instance. https://www.theregister.com/2021/05/19/salesforce_root_cause...
Re:A Few Words About Blameless Culture – By Michael Hart – O... by resonious on Monday December 04, 2023 @08:29PM (#38525845)
I'll agree that's bad, but I'd also say that blaming != firing.
Re:A Few Words About Blameless Culture – By Michael Hart – O... by seadan83 on Monday December 04, 2023 @09:52PM (#38526506)
Though, blame might be quite career limiting