Re:Tyrian purple: Ancient pigment that was more valuable tha...
by KineticLensman on Monday December 04, 2023 @07:14AM
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> At least accordingly to myth
And a lot of archaeological evidence!
> Carthage was colonized from Tyre, which is today in Lebanon.
It was founded by Phoenicians [0], whose land today largely coincides with modern-day Lebanon, which as a self-governing state is a relatively modern construct (post WW1).
Re:Tyrian purple: Ancient pigment that was more valuable tha...
by boringg on Monday December 04, 2023 @09:17AM
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Phoenicians didn't call themselves phoenicians either.
Re:Tyrian purple: Ancient pigment that was more valuable tha...
by nolok on Monday December 04, 2023 @09:38AM
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And then there are the Sea Peoples
Re:Tyrian purple: Ancient pigment that was more valuable tha...
by boringg on Monday December 04, 2023 @10:06AM
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I feel like most believable group for the sea peoples were migrants who had to leave their lands because the food supply had collapsed. Wasn't it the salinity had increased in deserts or something similar to that?
Re:Tyrian purple: Ancient pigment that was more valuable tha...
by stork19 on Monday December 04, 2023 @10:52AM
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Actually, a self-governing Lebanon existed in one form or another since at least the 16th century: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mount_Lebanon_Emirate
Re:Tyrian purple: Ancient pigment that was more valuable tha...
by einpoklum on Monday December 04, 2023 @09:03AM
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Just a reminder that the distinction between Lebanon and Syria is quite recent - due to the breakup of the Ottoman empire. There more well-known named region historically is A-Shaam in Arabic, Syria often in English:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Syria_(region)
It includes Lebanon, parts of northern Palestine, South-eastern Turkey, and (northern?) Jordan. And maybe a bit more.
Re:Tyrian purple: Ancient pigment that was more valuable tha...
by stork19 on Monday December 04, 2023 @11:43AM
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There was an autonomous Lebanon of one form of another since at least the 16th century, though.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mount_Lebanon_Emirate
Re:Tyrian purple: Ancient pigment that was more valuable tha...
by einpoklum on Monday December 04, 2023 @06:12PM
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+1, but readers should also note that:
* It included large areas which are outside and to the North of present-day Lebanon, and
* It was still part of "Ottoman Syria": https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ottoman_Syria , which was kind of a maximum version of what's described in my previous link
At least accordingly to myth Carthage was colonized from Tyre, which is today in Lebanon.