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Re:Tesla Cybertruck Pricing and Specs by BoorishBears on Thursday November 30, 2023 @05:40PM (#38480231)
I'd bet good money the average Ford Ranger/Maverick hauls more than the average F-150 today

> How many programmers do you see with MacBook Airs

The people working on some of the most complex projects of our times rely on compute that isn't available in a laptop, so they're perfectly fine taking an Air. I personally used an M1 Air for a couple of years.

Re:Tesla Cybertruck Pricing and Specs by oooyay on Thursday November 30, 2023 @08:02PM (#38481573)
> I'd bet good money the average Ford Ranger/Maverick hauls more than the average F-150 today

The Maverick can tow 4,000 lbs - which is pretty prohibitive with a small bed and the weight of a trailer. You're better off getting a modern Tacoma, of which there is an entire subreddit of people who will gleefully show you they too can haul.

Re:Tesla Cybertruck Pricing and Specs by js2 on Thursday November 30, 2023 @05:50PM (#38480365)
I'd take that bet. The Ranger isn't manufactured anymore (edit: yes it is; can't recall having seen one though) and I've never seen a Maverick used commercially. I don't think I've even seen one that didn't look freshly washed.

I mean, this isn't even hard to figure out: the F-150 is the best selling vehicle (not truck, but vehicle) in the U.S. for what, a decade or more?

Re:Tesla Cybertruck Pricing and Specs by wepple on Thursday November 30, 2023 @06:05PM (#38480503)
+1 who in their right mind would use a maverick for actual work? Ford don’t even pretend to market to those folks.

https://www.ford.com/trucks/maverick/

It’s a Subaru with a truck bed

Re:Tesla Cybertruck Pricing and Specs by mauvehaus on Thursday November 30, 2023 @08:10PM (#38481645)
Not if it doesn't have BRAT seats, it isn't!

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Subaru_BRAT

Owned an '86. It was a riot.

Re:Tesla Cybertruck Pricing and Specs by unethical_ban on Thursday November 30, 2023 @09:57PM (#38482494)
It fits the niche that the ranger did 15 years ago. Same as the ranger having the capacity (except for bed) as the f150 the same time ago.

Think auto shops shuttling parts around, or needing to toss dirty parts in the back of the truck without needing the hauling capacity.

Re:Tesla Cybertruck Pricing and Specs by rpmisms on Friday December 01, 2023 @12:04AM (#38483354)
For people who want some towing, some cargo, and good mileage. I've seen a couple landscapers using them. If you're towing a single mower and some trimmers/blowers, it's a good deal, and you can still take it into town and not look like an idiot.
Re:Tesla Cybertruck Pricing and Specs by panzagl on Thursday November 30, 2023 @06:09PM (#38480540)
The Ranger is made again, but it's huge compared to the 90's ones.

And the current F150 is much bigger than one from 10 years ago, so even an older F150 would be smaller than the current monstrosities.

Re:Tesla Cybertruck Pricing and Specs by icameron on Thursday November 30, 2023 @06:11PM (#38480584)
They make the Ranger again. It looks just like a Tacoma or Chevy Colorado, and have a Turbo Charged I-4