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Re:Apple pulls plug on Goldman credit-card partnership by wkat4242 on Wednesday November 29, 2023 @05:25AM (#38457696)
It's a total difference of point of view.

In Europe, banks don't like you taking out credit cards. Borrowing money is viewed as a weakness and it's best to never do it.

In America it's considered a virtue to have many credit cards and shuffle them so you can be seen to pay it off. Really weird.

Re:Apple pulls plug on Goldman credit-card partnership by dukeyukey on Wednesday November 29, 2023 @07:58AM (#38458780)
> In Europe, banks don't like you taking out credit cards. Borrowing money is viewed as a weakness and it's best to never do it.

Don't know about that, "Europe" is a big place. Credit cards are pretty common in the UK at least, and stuff like balance transfer cards (for shuffling) are too. Maybe not to American extents, but hardly a weakness.

In fact, looks like more people in Iceland, Norway and Switzerland own credit cards than the US: https://www.statista.com/statistics/675371/ownership-of-cred...

Re:Apple pulls plug on Goldman credit-card partnership by wkat4242 on Wednesday November 29, 2023 @08:19AM (#38458979)
Well the UK is a similar state to the US.

I don't believe this about Switzerland though. They are a very typical people that abhors spending money you don't have. But I think they may be counting debit cards there.

Re:Apple pulls plug on Goldman credit-card partnership by Amezarak on Wednesday November 29, 2023 @07:57AM (#38458777)
Credit cards have a crucial benefit over debit cards: they add a layer of indirection to my bank account.

Steal (or mischarge) my credit card, run up 10k in charges, no problem. No money ever comes out of my bank account and I dispute the charges/report the card stolen.

Steal my debit card, run up 10k in charges...there's 10k gone out of my account until the bank resolves the situation.

Re:Apple pulls plug on Goldman credit-card partnership by wkat4242 on Wednesday November 29, 2023 @08:17AM (#38458964)
Here they won't let you dispute charges. There's no purchase insurance included either. Or those cashback awards like you get in the US.